American Elections Are A Joke

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The United States now has, bar none, the world's dumbest election system. The rest of the world must look on in awe as it wonders how it is that the world's richest and most heavily-armed country can't count. Even if no one is cheating, it looks horrible. If America were a face, it'd sprout a golf-ball sized herpes sore every Election Day. This has been our reality since Covid and contrary to popular belief, it's not strictly a blue-red issue, since some of our worst elections have been Democratic primaries. Every idiotic new feature is on display in California:

Covid-19 at least offered a theoretical reason why a plurality of states might make drastic changes to voting law starting in 2020, but few politicians since have articulated why we need to stay in a state of dumb emergency. California became a "mostly mail-in" state in 2022, allowing almost totally unregulated ballot harvesting (or "brokering"). This made some sense in a pandemic, but now that Americans from both parties are back to enjoying restaurant dining and Tinder sex, it should be safe to vote in person.

Nope. California not only remains joyfully stuck in "mostly mail" mode, it gives itself 30 days to count ballots that may arrive by mail if postmarked by election day.

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The 2020 Democratic presidential race was stained forever by long counting delays in primaries in Iowa and New Hampshire, where Sanders again won the most votes, but the surprise third place finish for Amy Klobuchar led to celebration of a biological-sounding thing called the "Klobucharge." The 2024 New Hampshire Democratic primary was quietly overturned and replaced by a "party-run delegate selection primary" or "nominating event" held in secret in May of that year, a thing that to this day almost no one knows about:

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Voting in the United States was easy. You showed up, experienced boredom and mild civic pride while waiting in a short line, then hopped in a booth after a yawning election worker made sure your signature was at least a vague match to the real thing. You could still commit voter fraud in lots of different ways, but asking people to make that slight detour on the way home eliminated whole universes of possible corruption. What possible upside is there in keeping this asinine "Durr we need a few more weeks to count this ****" system? Unless deploying a big fat middle finger to the public is the point, there couldn't be any, could there?

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okaydo
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2024 presidential election:

Republican gets 26.5% of the vote.
Democrat gets 70.1% of the vote.

= who cares!




2026 Los Angeles mayoral primary:

Republican gets 25.8% of the vote.
Top 4 Democrats get a combined 69.4% of the vote

= FRAUD!!!!!!




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For all the hysteria about the California election, nobody seems to question that 2/3 of eligible voters don't bother to cast a vote because they know this system has little to do with their lives.
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November 4, 2025, Statewide Special Election Statement of Vote - Historical Voter Registration and Participation

Elections Statistics :: California Secretary of State
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okaydo said:

2024 presidential election:

Republican gets 26.5% of the vote.
Democrat gets 70.1% of the vote.

= who cares!




2026 Los Angeles mayoral primary:

Republican gets 25.8% of the vote.
Top 4 Democrats get a combined 69.4% of the vote

= FRAUD!!!!!!



bearister
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" The United States now has, bar none, the world's dumbest election system. The rest of the world must look on in awe as it wonders how it is that the world's richest and most heavily-armed country can't count."

I think the only thing the rest of the world wonders about is how this guy got elected twice:


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Anarchistbear said:

For all the hysteria about the California election, nobody seems to question that 2/3 of eligible voters don't bother to cast a vote because they know this system has little to do with their lives.

Here's how we can engage those 2/3: Put them in a lottery where the winners get to go take back the Strait of Hormuz.
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okaydo said:

2024 presidential election:

Republican gets 26.5% of the vote.
Democrat gets 70.1% of the vote.

= who cares!


2026 Los Angeles mayoral primary:

Republican gets 25.8% of the vote.
Top 4 Democrats get a combined 69.4% of the vote

= FRAUD!!!!!!






A most shocking correlation for sure.
lol

Nicely done!

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Ironically, to my knowledge, Trump is the only candidate that has made statements indicating a personal familiarity with the mechanics of rigging an election:

1. In recorded comments, US President Donald Trump said to Georgia's secretary of state, the Republican Brad Raffensperger:

"All I want to do is this. I just want to find* 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state
https://amp.dw.com/en/donald-trump-heard-on-tape-telling-state-official-to-find-him-votes/a-56121196

2. On Sunday (Jan. 19), Donald Trump held his final rally before he is sworn in as the country's 47th president. While on stage at the Washington, D.C., celebration, he expressed his appreciation for Elon Musk, who "journeyed to Pennsylvania where he spent a month and a half campaigning for me ... and he's a popular guy."

He continued, "He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers, those vote-counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide. So, it was pretty good, it was pretty good. So, thank you to Elon."
https://www.revolt.tv/article/trump-says-elon-musk-voting-computer-knowledge-led-to-pa-win

With regard to 1., Trump appears to be making a statement that only someone with experience of "finding" nonexistence votes would make.

In 2. he stupidly steps on his dick and makes an outright admission about tampering with voting machines. No wonder he is against mail in ballots.


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bearister said:

Ironically, to my knowledge, Trump is the only candidate that has made statements indicating a personal familiarity with the mechanics of rigging an election:

1. In recorded comments, US President Donald Trump said to Georgia's secretary of state, the Republican Brad Raffensperger:

"All I want to do is this. I just want to find* 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state
https://amp.dw.com/en/donald-trump-heard-on-tape-telling-state-official-to-find-him-votes/a-56121196

2. On Sunday (Jan. 19), Donald Trump held his final rally before he is sworn in as the country's 47th president. While on stage at the Washington, D.C., celebration, he expressed his appreciation for Elon Musk, who "journeyed to Pennsylvania where he spent a month and a half campaigning for me ... and he's a popular guy."

He continued, "He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers, those vote-counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide. So, it was pretty good, it was pretty good. So, thank you to Elon."
https://www.revolt.tv/article/trump-says-elon-musk-voting-computer-knowledge-led-to-pa-win

With regard to 1., Trump appears to be making a statement that only someone with experience of "finding" nonexistence votes would make.

In 2. he stupidly steps on his dick and makes an outright admission about tampering with voting machines. No wonder he is against mail in ballots.





More nothing burgers that TDS afflicted latch onto.
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Such a convincing rebuttal. You missed your calling as a criminal defense attorney.
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bearister said:

Such a convincing rebuttal. You missed your calling as a criminal defense attorney.


You joke but if you close your eyes and say TDS 3 times, you get a pardon
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Anarchistbear said:

For all the hysteria about the California election, nobody seems to question that 2/3 of eligible voters don't bother to cast a vote because they know this system has little to do with their lives.

Some vote with their feet and leave the state.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Anarchistbear said:

For all the hysteria about the California election, nobody seems to question that 2/3 of eligible voters don't bother to cast a vote because they know this system has little to do with their lives.

Some vote with their feet and leave the state.


Good, CA is too crowded
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Hilton advances in gubernatorial race. You MAGAs were right all along, the election was rigged.
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dajo9 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Anarchistbear said:

For all the hysteria about the California election, nobody seems to question that 2/3 of eligible voters don't bother to cast a vote because they know this system has little to do with their lives.

Some vote with their feet and leave the state.

Good, CA is too crowded

But illegal immigrants take their place and then some.
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bearister said:

Hilton advances in gubernatorial race. You MAGAs were right all along, the election was rigged.

Democrats took out Eric Swalwell, didn't they?
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

dajo9 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Anarchistbear said:

For all the hysteria about the California election, nobody seems to question that 2/3 of eligible voters don't bother to cast a vote because they know this system has little to do with their lives.

Some vote with their feet and leave the state.

Good, CA is too crowded

But illegal immigrants take their place and then some.


Right.
Because it's so cheap to live in CA.
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DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

dajo9 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Anarchistbear said:

For all the hysteria about the California election, nobody seems to question that 2/3 of eligible voters don't bother to cast a vote because they know this system has little to do with their lives.

Some vote with their feet and leave the state.

Good, CA is too crowded

But illegal immigrants take their place and then some.

Right.
Because it's so cheap to live in CA.

How can you beat free, bro?
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BearlySane88 said:



More nothing burgers that TDS afflicted latch onto.




The primary purpose of using the term TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) is to label critics of Donald Trump as irrational, emotionally driven, and incapable of objectively processing reality.

Politically, the term operates as a rhetorical tool designed to achieve several distinct communication goals:

Reframing the Debate: By pathologizing opposition to Trump, users of the term shift the focus away from Trump's specific actions, policies, or legal challenges, framing the issue instead around the alleged mental or emotional instability of the critic.

Dismissing Criticism as Unfounded Hysteria: It functions as a "thought-terminating cliche". It suggests that a person's negative response to Donald Trump is born of blind, instinctual hatred rather than a reasoned, substantive disagreement.

Discrediting Mainstream Media and Institutional Opponents: Proponents often use the term to dismiss unfavorable news reports or institutional pushback. They argue that the media is hyper-focused on catastrophic interpretations of Trump's actions, which renders them incapable of acknowledging any positive outcomes or policy successes.

Creating Political Identity and Deflection: In heavily polarized environments, labeling an opponent with "TDS" reinforces an in-group bond among supporters while painting political opponents as a collective group driven by a singular obsession.

Historical Context and EvolutionThe linguistic formula of pathologizing political dissent is not unique to Trump. The phrase was modeled after "Bush Derangement Syndrome" (BDS), a term coined in 2003 by conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer to describe what he viewed as the unhinged paranoia of George W. Bush's critics.

Counter-Arguments and PerspectivesFrom Critics: Opponents argue that the "TDS" label is an ad hominem slur used strictly to sidestep difficult political debates and suppress democratic dissent. They maintain that intense concern regarding Trump's rhetoric, legal challenges, and institutional impact represents valid, democratic engagement rather than psychological instability.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

dajo9 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Anarchistbear said:

For all the hysteria about the California election, nobody seems to question that 2/3 of eligible voters don't bother to cast a vote because they know this system has little to do with their lives.

Some vote with their feet and leave the state.

Good, CA is too crowded

But illegal immigrants take their place and then some.

Right.
Because it's so cheap to live in CA.

How can you beat free, bro?


Where do you live bro?

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Eliminate mail-in voting with exceptions.

Require ID to vote.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Eliminate mail-in voting with exceptions.

Require ID to vote.


President Trump has the resources to vote in person. If he's able to mail-in vote, everybody should be able to mail-in vote. Mail-in voting shouldn't be reserved for the rich. And poor be should be allowed to mail-in vote, too.
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okaydo said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:


Eliminate mail-in voting with exceptions.

Require ID to vote.

President Trump has the resources to vote in person. If he's able to mail-in vote, everybody should be able to mail-in vote. Mail-in voting shouldn't be reserved for the rich. And poor be should be allowed to mail-in vote, too.

Exceptions include military in which, Trump is the Commander in Chief.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

okaydo said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:


Eliminate mail-in voting with exceptions.

Require ID to vote.

President Trump has the resources to vote in person. If he's able to mail-in vote, everybody should be able to mail-in vote. Mail-in voting shouldn't be reserved for the rich. And poor be should be allowed to mail-in vote, too.

Exceptions include military in which, Trump is the Commander in Chief.


Trump is not a member of the military. He shouldn't get military exceptions.

Trump has the resources to vote in person.

Rich people shouldn't be getting preferential treatment for mail-in voting.

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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Exceptions include military in which, Trump is the Commander in Chief.


You mean President BONESPURS?
With 5 draft deferrals?

LMFAO.

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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Eliminate mail-in voting with exceptions.

Require ID to vote.

I don't know. I came from a mail in vote state. I voted tonight in person for the first time in 30+ years. It was a lot harder and I made far less informed choices - in Oregon we received printed voters guides that could be read in advance or opened up while deciding; this time I hadn't received any info from the state on candidates / initiatives. Also, it is just so much easier to do it from the comfort of your home than driving to a polling station.
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There are definitely tradeoffs between convenience and safeguarding the electoral process.
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okaydo said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

okaydo said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:


Eliminate mail-in voting with exceptions.

Require ID to vote.

President Trump has the resources to vote in person. If he's able to mail-in vote, everybody should be able to mail-in vote. Mail-in voting shouldn't be reserved for the rich. And poor be should be allowed to mail-in vote, too.

Exceptions include military in which, Trump is the Commander in Chief.

Trump is not a member of the military. He shouldn't get military exceptions.

Trump has the resources to vote in person.

Rich people shouldn't be getting preferential treatment for mail-in voting.

You should be happy to know that the SAVE America Act doesn't include exceptions for Presidents, but it lacked the votes in the Senate.
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okaydo said:

2024 presidential election:

Republican gets 26.5% of the vote.
Democrat gets 70.1% of the vote.

= who cares!




2026 Los Angeles mayoral primary:

Republican gets 25.8% of the vote.
Top 4 Democrats get a combined 69.4% of the vote

= FRAUD!!!!!!








Update: The Dems have a combined 69.77%.

And Spencer Pratt is a point below Trump.

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California takes too long to count the ballots, but that has little to do with it being "mostly mail." There are "all mail" states like Colorado and Oregon that count much faster. This is a "bad governance" problem more than a mail ballot problem.
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bearister said:

Such a convincing rebuttal. You missed your calling as a criminal defense attorney.


So convincing you responded to it twice
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sycasey said:

California takes too long to count the ballots, but that has little to do with it being "mostly mail." There are "all mail" states like Colorado and Oregon that count much faster. This is a "bad governance" problem more than a mail ballot problem.

Maybe California needs "better governance".

Hilton said you can backdate your ballot by hand and it will be counted in California.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

sycasey said:

California takes too long to count the ballots, but that has little to do with it being "mostly mail." There are "all mail" states like Colorado and Oregon that count much faster. This is a "bad governance" problem more than a mail ballot problem.

Maybe California needs "better governance".

Hilton said you can backdate your ballot by hand and it will be counted in California.

Pretty sure it has to be postmarked by election day, so I don't see how that would change anything.
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