bearister said:

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smh said:

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bearister said:

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"Yes, Tom Laughlin was a serious martial artist, a dedicated student of hapkido, training intensely for his iconic "Billy Jack" films to authentically portray the character's skills, even bringing in his teacher, Grandmaster Bong Soo Han, for the most advanced fight scenes, as cited by the Los Angeles Times. He trained for months before filming to realistically perform many of his own stunts, making the Billy Jack movies pioneering in bringing martial arts to mainstream American audiences."

AI Overview

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thanks, prolly true. but to be honest, sorrry, AI carp don't float my boat.

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If you are going to spend 1 minute questioning the martial arts bona fides of a B movie icon, then I'm going to spend 5 seconds on AI saving his defamed reputation.

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Just watched the game, recorded. Needed Dort (and/or Petraitis). Oh well...

I think I watched Billy Jack (the one with the hit pop song) at the Coliseum Drive-In. We put the smallest one of us in the trunk, to get in cheaper. Then we kept him in there for an extra ten minutes, telling him that the drive-in officials were suspicious and watching our car. I can still hear him pounding on the trunk lid (from the inside). Good times. Better than tonight.

Golden One said:

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This was a bad loss to a very mediocre Florida State team. Baring a miracle, whatever chance we had to scratch our way into the Tournament ended tonight. We obviously missed Dort, but all the turnovers really hurt us.

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FSU has been playing a lot better than their record lately.

Florida State lost to Duke by 4 at home. The lost on the road at SMU by 3. The beat Miami on the road. They definitely beat our team last year 10 out 10 times. Still a bad loss but not the "nail in the coffin" for our tournament hopes. Even if we lose to Miami, it's still not over.

We knew we had to be 10-8 in ACC play.

@ FSU L
@ Miami L If we win this more margin for error
Georgia Tech W
Clemson W
@ Syracuse L
@ Boston College W
Stanfurd W
SMU W
Pitt W
@ Georgia Tech W
@ Wake Forest L

That's 10-8 in conference play. 2-1 in quad 1 and 1-3 in quad 2 (over this stretch). 22-9 overall. That gets a bid imo.

Johnfox said:

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Florida State lost to Duke by 4 at home. The lost on the road at SMU by 3. The beat Miami on the road. They definitely beat our team last year 10 out 10 times. Still a bad loss but not the "nail in the coffin" for our tournament hopes. Even if we lose to Miami, it's still not over.

We knew we had to be 10-8 in ACC play.

@ FSU L
@ Miami L If we win this more margin for error
Georgia Tech W
Clemson W
@ Syracuse L
@ Boston College W
Stanfurd W
SMU W
Pitt W
@ Georgia Tech W
@ Wake Forest L

That's 10-8 in conference play. 2-1 in quad 1 and 1-3 in quad 2 (over this stretch). 22-9 overall. That gets a bid imo.

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7-3 down the stretch with 5 of them on the road is tougher in the ACC then it was in the Pac (as last night showed). I would love to see it and definitely think it is possible and will be rooting for it (or better).

But I wouldn't bet on it. 5-5 seems more realistic, since all the other teams are looking at this the same way.

My bigger question is if 22-9 and 10-8 is good enough to bet in. Seems like that is more on the bubble of the bubble.

Fingers crossed in any event - Go Bears!!

Our ACC schedule is front-loaded, we have most of the better teams early in the season. If we can stay healthy we should finish strong.

HKBear97! said:

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Johnfox said:

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Florida State lost to Duke by 4 at home. The lost on the road at SMU by 3. The beat Miami on the road. They definitely beat our team last year 10 out 10 times. Still a bad loss but not the "nail in the coffin" for our tournament hopes. Even if we lose to Miami, it's still not over.

We knew we had to be 10-8 in ACC play.

@ FSU L
@ Miami L If we win this more margin for error
Georgia Tech W
Clemson W
@ Syracuse L
@ Boston College W
Stanfurd W
SMU W
Pitt W
@ Georgia Tech W
@ Wake Forest L

That's 10-8 in conference play. 2-1 in quad 1 and 1-3 in quad 2 (over this stretch). 22-9 overall. That gets a bid imo.

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That's a very optimistic scenario. Clemson and SMU are really strong. And while Georgia Tech seems more evenly matched, Cal just lost to an even lower seeded Florida State team, so hard to say that's an obvious win. As for Stanford, I think Cal was lucky to play them the first game after they lost their second leading scorer. They looked better versus Miami than against us.

This Cal team has stretches where they look very competitive, but then completely regress. As of now, they are not consistent enough to even come close to the bubble.

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I agree, Cal has been too inconsistent, mainly because we don't have anyone who is a true "4", and sometimes it really comes up to bite us. More inside presence last night would have really helped us.

OTOH, just my opinion, but we didn't have Petraitis for the furd game, so they were "lucky" as well. Seems so often that stanfurd gets a pass, the reality is they are just as inconsistent as we are. We beat them that night because we were the better team.

Cal88 said:

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Our ACC schedule is front-loaded, we have most of the better teams early in the season. If we can stay healthy we should finish strong.

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I love it!

Unlike a couple of comments on here (the minority, I believe), I don't really fault our any of our players or the staff for the FSU loss* We had a shot to win in the last second, so pretty close. It seems that our lack of depth is really hurting us and will probably continue to down the stretch - which is why I think 7-3 is too high of an expectation at this point in the season, based on what we can and cannot change this week.

*Unlike prior seasons, it is no longer obvious with 5 minutes to play that we aren't in most games. We have won many games and MOST of those we lost, we were in it until the end and it usually comes down to one player being out or having an off night. Dort last night was an example. Also, if our depth included another shooter to step in for Bell, when he is off - then it would be less of a risk.

Cal88 said:

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Our ACC schedule is front-loaded, we have most of the better teams early in the season. If we can stay healthy we should finish strong.

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Last night was still a spear in the heart though...We will miss that as a win down the line for sure.

HKBear97! said:

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RedlessWardrobe said:

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HKBear97! said:

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Johnfox said:

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Florida State lost to Duke by 4 at home. The lost on the road at SMU by 3. The beat Miami on the road. They definitely beat our team last year 10 out 10 times. Still a bad loss but not the "nail in the coffin" for our tournament hopes. Even if we lose to Miami, it's still not over.

We knew we had to be 10-8 in ACC play.

@ FSU L
@ Miami L If we win this more margin for error
Georgia Tech W
Clemson W
@ Syracuse L
@ Boston College W
Stanfurd W
SMU W
Pitt W
@ Georgia Tech W
@ Wake Forest L

That's 10-8 in conference play. 2-1 in quad 1 and 1-3 in quad 2 (over this stretch). 22-9 overall. That gets a bid imo.

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That's a very optimistic scenario. Clemson and SMU are really strong. And while Georgia Tech seems more evenly matched, Cal just lost to an even lower seeded Florida State team, so hard to say that's an obvious win. As for Stanford, I think Cal was lucky to play them the first game after they lost their second leading scorer. They looked better versus Miami than against us.

This Cal team has stretches where they look very competitive, but then completely regress. As of now, they are not consistent enough to even come close to the bubble.

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I agree, Cal has been too inconsistent, mainly because we don't have anyone who is a true "4", and sometimes it really comes up to bite us. More inside presence last night would have really helped us.

OTOH, just my opinion, but we didn't have Petraitis for the furd game, so they were "lucky" as well. Seems so often that stanfurd gets a pass, the reality is they are just as inconsistent as we are. We beat them that night because we were the better team.

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True, but the game against Cal was the first game Stanford played without Okpara versus Cal being able to adjust without Petraitis since November. It showed in Stanford's offensive execution against Cal versus Miami. Yes, Cal was the better team that day, but Okpara just being ruled out was key. Similar to last night - might have been a different outcome with Dort playing. Need him back alongside more consistent play the rest of the way.

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Okay, I'm guilty of doing the "back and forth" thing, but the fact is we beat furd on their home court by 12 points. In my book, nothing lucky about that.

3Cats4CAL said:

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next year if we still have Dort- can Madsen get any additional better centers than Kocantas and Dut?

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All about the $$$. Haven't heard much about his HS recruiting lately? But previous news has mainly been guards/SF types

Guessing we won't see Yeanay this season? Was sorta excited when he transferred here b/c he looked like a PF that could attack the rim

Cal88 said:

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OdontoBear66 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Our ACC schedule is front-loaded, we have most of the better teams early in the season. If we can stay healthy we should finish strong.

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Last night was still a spear in the heart though...We will miss that as a win down the line for sure.

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Our NET ranking barely budged after the loss, down to #56, perhaps because the teams we have played have had a good week so far. If we can manage to beat Miami, the week would be a slight positive in terms of our bubble status.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

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Understand, but beating Miami, with or without Dort will be harder than beating FSU going in. But yes, a win would be wonderful

OdontoBear66 said:

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Cal88 said:

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OdontoBear66 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Our ACC schedule is front-loaded, we have most of the better teams early in the season. If we can stay healthy we should finish strong.

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Last night was still a spear in the heart though...We will miss that as a win down the line for sure.

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Our NET ranking barely budged after the loss, down to #56, perhaps because the teams we have played have had a good week so far. If we can manage to beat Miami, the week would be a slight positive in terms of our bubble status.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

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Understand, but beating Miami, with or without Dort will be harder than beating FSU going in. But yes, a win would be wonderful

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FSU beat Miami at Miami last week.

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All about the $$$. Haven't heard much about his HS recruiting lately? But previous news has mainly been guards/SF types

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IMHO our top recruiting priority should be finding $$$ to keep Pippen.

He's not hurting for money, we might not have to match the highest outside offer with him.

It sure seems like his dad is happy with where he's at.

Thats what we thought about Andre

Madsen comes across as a players' coach, someone who is easy to get along with and play for. As well his dad being based in LA is able to "commute" to home games, and the school and environment are hard to top for someone who grew up in a big city and is academically minded.

oskidunker said:

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Thats what we thought about Andre

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Just an opinion here, not verifiable, but based on what I saw I never thought that.

oskidunker said:

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Thats what we thought about Andre

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Not sure where that comes from. I thought that 'WE' thought they were opposites. The body language definitely supports that.

Cal88 said:

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OdontoBear66 said:

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Cal88 said:

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OdontoBear66 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Our ACC schedule is front-loaded, we have most of the better teams early in the season. If we can stay healthy we should finish strong.

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Last night was still a spear in the heart though...We will miss that as a win down the line for sure.

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Our NET ranking barely budged after the loss, down to #56, perhaps because the teams we have played have had a good week so far. If we can manage to beat Miami, the week would be a slight positive in terms of our bubble status.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

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Understand, but beating Miami, with or without Dort will be harder than beating FSU going in. But yes, a win would be wonderful

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FSU beat Miami at Miami last week.

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But somehow the oddsmakers have us a double digit 'dog to Miami...Hmmmm. But what do I know...Haha.

kc1121 said:

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ACC injury report says Dort OUT again.

Marcus Allen and Treyvon Maddox OUT for Hurricanes

https://theacc.com/sports/2025/12/29/availability-reporting-mbb.aspx

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its kind of lame that somehow the odds makers know about this before we are allowed to know. This is the only reason for the 10pt swing and made me think he wasn't playing as a result. Have to hit our threes today.

bearsandgiants said:

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kc1121 said:

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ACC injury report says Dort OUT again.

Marcus Allen and Treyvon Maddox OUT for Hurricanes

https://theacc.com/sports/2025/12/29/availability-reporting-mbb.aspx

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its kind of lame that somehow the odds makers know about this before we are allowed to know. This is the only reason for the 10pt swing and made me think he wasn't playing as a result. Have to hit our threes today.

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Looks like Allen is a backup guard and it doesn't appear Maddox has played all season.
Not a good injury tradeoff for us.

kc1121 said:

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ACC injury report says Dort OUT again.

Marcus Allen and Treyvon Maddox OUT for Hurricanes

https://theacc.com/sports/2025/12/29/availability-reporting-mbb.aspx

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this link doesn't show anything and is loaded with spam ads. I can't see any credible source saying Dort is out for this game, just a couple fly-by-night gambling odds sites referencing the 1/24 report that Dort was out, nothing from today. Maybe it's just my iPhone.

bearsandgiants said:

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kc1121 said:

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ACC injury report says Dort OUT again.

Marcus Allen and Treyvon Maddox OUT for Hurricanes

https://theacc.com/sports/2025/12/29/availability-reporting-mbb.aspx

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this link doesn't show anything and is loaded with spam ads. I can't see any credible source saying Dort is out for this game, just a couple fly-by-night gambling odds sites referencing the 1/24 report that Dort was out, nothing from today. Maybe it's just my iPhone.

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It showed all the ACC games last night when I checked.

this has it in another form, but this one says initial report
https://theacc.com/sports/2025/12/29/availability-reporting-mbb-archive.aspx

bearsandgiants said:

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kc1121 said:

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ACC injury report says Dort OUT again.

Marcus Allen and Treyvon Maddox OUT for Hurricanes

https://theacc.com/sports/2025/12/29/availability-reporting-mbb.aspx

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this link doesn't show anything and is loaded with spam ads. I can't see any credible source saying Dort is out for this game, just a couple fly-by-night gambling odds sites referencing the 1/24 report that Dort was out, nothing from today. Maybe it's just my iPhone.

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the link is back up

"Report posted on Friday, January 30 at 8pm ET"
OUT:
Ruff
Yeanay
Marbury
Rytis
Dort

kc1121 said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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kc1121 said:

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ACC injury report says Dort OUT again.

Marcus Allen and Treyvon Maddox OUT for Hurricanes

https://theacc.com/sports/2025/12/29/availability-reporting-mbb.aspx

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this link doesn't show anything and is loaded with spam ads. I can't see any credible source saying Dort is out for this game, just a couple fly-by-night gambling odds sites referencing the 1/24 report that Dort was out, nothing from today. Maybe it's just my iPhone.

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the link is back up

"Report posted on Friday, January 30 at 8pm ET"
OUT:
Ruff
Yeanay
Marbury
Rytis
Dort

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That's the initial report. Could end up being final, and is probably accurate, but:

"For 2025-26 ACC basketball, teams submit an Initial Availability Report the night before a conference game (by 8 p.m. local time) and a final Gameday Report two hours before tip-off. The initial report lists players as Available, Probable, Questionable, or Out, while the gameday report updates to Available, Game Time Decision, or Out."

We won't now for sure until as lates as 2pm Eastern Time, apparently. Not sure if OUT on the initial report means you can't change it for the gameday report.

well take it FWIW if you want action on today's game. Those reports have been pretty accurate for mbb and wbb, It'd be nice to have him since Miami's best player is a 6'9" transfer from Indiana