NCAA projections

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MiZery
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Hoops HQ has us in last four in

https://www.hoopshq.com/rankings/bracketology-2026-mens-ncaa-tournament-projections-4
MiZery
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On3 has us in last four out.

https://www.on3.com/news/2026-ncaa-tournament-predictions-bracketology-projections-shift-entering-february/
Cal88
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MiZery said:

Hoops HQ has us in last four in

https://www.hoopshq.com/rankings/bracketology-2026-mens-ncaa-tournament-projections-4


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  • In a game that had major bubble implications, California came away with the win at Miami (FL) by a score of 86-85. It's a big win for Cal, who also has wins over UCLA, UNC and at Stanford. Conversely, the loss for the Hurricanes is a problem. You know how many wins they have over teams currently in the field? The answer is zero.



Our NET moved up from #55 before the FL trip to #51, beating Miami also gets us a valuable Quad 1 road win.
MiZery
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What happens if we have a lower NET ranking than a team and they are ahead of us in the ACC standings?
MiZery
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First four out according to Lunardi

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Cal88
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MiZery said:

What happens if we have a lower NET ranking than a team and they are ahead of us in the ACC standings?


The reason we are behind some teams in the ACC but ahead of them in the NET is that we have already played most of the top teams in the conference and fared decently. IIRC only 2 of our 9 remaining ACC opponents are ahead of us in the NET, Clemson and SMU, so we should finish better than some teams ahead of us in the ACC who have much tougher remaining conference schedules.

By the end of the regular season, the NET and ACC rankings should converge.
sycasey
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This is a good resource for looking at all the bracket predictions:

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Some projections have us in but most don't yet. Puts us roughly in the first four out, as Lunardi predicts. Sounds about right.
calumnus
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I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.
MiZery
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Also the Kansas State game. KSU is not good
bearsandgiants
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calumnus said:

I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.

If we win 7 of our last 9, plus at least one game in the ACC tournament, I'd bet my life we'll be in. I think if we go 6-3 plus an ACC game, we'll be in. A bunch of other teams will fall apart and go .500 from here on out who are above us. Some of those teams have a lighter remaining schedule. We'll be fine.
sycasey
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MiZery said:

Also the Kansas State game. KSU is not good

Yes, though this and FSU count as Quad 2 games because they were on the road. You get "forgiven" a bit in the system for losing those.
Cal88
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bearsandgiants said:

calumnus said:

I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.

If we win 7 of our last 9, plus at least one game in the ACC tournament, I'd bet my life we'll be in. I think if we go 6-3 plus an ACC game, we'll be in. A bunch of other teams will fall apart and go .500 from here on out who are above us. Some of those teams have a lighter remaining schedule. We'll be fine.


The Clemson game is huge, we can afford to lose if we beat teams we will be favored against in the remaining schedule, but if we beat Clemson we would at that point be off the bubble and into the brackets.

Although the committee supposedly considers cases on an individual basis rather than in terms of teams per conference, there is a certain element of the latter especially since the ACC should have a lot more teams in compared to last year, so it is useful to look at the other bubble teams in the conference:

-Miami has had a weak schedule, only played and lost to Clemson, has yet to play UNC, UVA, Lville, SMU, VT, NCSt and apparently don't play Duke. They might not make it esp if it comes down to a close call between us vs them with our head to head win.

-NCSt is currently 7-2 in the ACC, but have yet to play Duke, UNC, UVA, Lville, SMU, Miami and VT.

-VTech has yet to play Clemson, UNC, UVA, Miami, NCSt, at 5-5 in the ACC I don't see them breaking .500.

-SMU is 4-4 with Lville, Miami, Cal and NCSt and the rest mid to bottom tier, they could finish 10-8

Duke, Clemson, UVA, Lville and UNC are in, the 4 teams above are on the bubble with us.
calumnus
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bearsandgiants said:

calumnus said:

I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.

If we win 7 of our last 9, plus at least one game in the ACC tournament, I'd bet my life we'll be in. I think if we go 6-3 plus an ACC game, we'll be in. A bunch of other teams will fall apart and go .500 from here on out who are above us. Some of those teams have a lighter remaining schedule. We'll be fine.

I think 6-3 with a win and a loss in the ACC Tournament (the dreaded 10 total losses) is quite possible, maybe even likely given our play so far. It would essentially be winning and losing the games we are currently expected to win or lose. Our NET rating would probably still be in the 50s and we would be among those having our bubble burst as so many experts are currently predicting. To advance in the standings and play our way in we need to play better than we have so far and beat the teams we are currently favored to beat AND a couple of the teams we are not favored to beat. We need to up our game. Beating Miami was great, but that was offset by losing to Florida State. We need to be more consistent.

The good news is that if we get Dort back healthy I think that is entirely likely. Camden and Bell are shooting well again. I think we really could step up our game. Eliminate the bad turnovers. It is all very possible. I think our best basketball could still be ahead of us, but we really need Dort back healthy.
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Other years I have felt very nervous about this and worried myself sick on Selection Sunday. But this year, given pre-season expectations, we are SO playing with house money. As they said on the telecast we were picked 16 out of 17. The fact that we are even having this discussion and have the chance to go .500+ in ACC play has me happy as a bear and what happens on selection Sunday happens. Indeed, I don't want to over obsess because it takes away from what has been a HIGHLY entertaining year of BB with a team that it is VERY easy to like.

The interesting thing is that teams like Cal that are "in" will get the seed of death (the 8/9) so I would rather sneak in and get the 12-5 and hope for a good matchup ;-)

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calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

calumnus said:

I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.

If we win 7 of our last 9, plus at least one game in the ACC tournament, I'd bet my life we'll be in. I think if we go 6-3 plus an ACC game, we'll be in. A bunch of other teams will fall apart and go .500 from here on out who are above us. Some of those teams have a lighter remaining schedule. We'll be fine.

I think 6-3 with a win and a loss in the ACC Tournament (the dreaded 10 total losses) is quite possible, maybe even likely given our play so far. It would essentially be winning and losing the games we are currently expected to win or lose. Our NET rating would probably still be in the 50s and we would be among those having our bubble burst as so many experts are currently predicting. To advance in the standings and play our way in we need to play better than we have so far and beat the teams we are currently favored to beat AND a couple of the teams we are not favored to beat. We need to up our game. Beating Miami was great, but that was offset by losing to Florida State. We need to be more consistent.

The good news is that if we get Dort back healthy I think that is entirely likely. Camden and Bell are shooting well again. I think we really could step up our game. Eliminate the bad turnovers. It is all very possible. I think our best basketball could still be ahead of us, but we really need Dort back healthy.


We have a team this season with almost all new personnel, so you can expect the team to improve over the course of the season as players get more familiar with the system and their teammates, ie, more upside with the gelling than with a team that's already been in place going into the season.

This also validates the choice of an easier OOC schedule in order to avoid losses that would really hurt our resume, given that the long ACC round robin will eventually take care of the SOS.
sycasey
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socaltownie said:

Other years I have felt very nervous about this and worried myself sick on Selection Sunday. But this year, given pre-season expectations, we are SO playing with house money. As they said on the telecast we were picked 16 out of 17. The fact that we are even having this discussion and have the chance to go .500+ in ACC play has me happy as a bear and what happens on selection Sunday happens. Indeed, I don't want to over obsess because it takes away from what has been a HIGHLY entertaining year of BB with a team that it is VERY easy to like.

The interesting thing is that teams like Cal that are "in" will get the seed of death (the 8/9) so I would rather sneak in and get the 12-5 and hope for a good matchup ;-)



And 8 or 9 seed seems unlikely unless we really get hot. If we make the tourney it will likely be in the 10-12 range.
calumnus
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Cal88 said:

calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

calumnus said:

I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.

If we win 7 of our last 9, plus at least one game in the ACC tournament, I'd bet my life we'll be in. I think if we go 6-3 plus an ACC game, we'll be in. A bunch of other teams will fall apart and go .500 from here on out who are above us. Some of those teams have a lighter remaining schedule. We'll be fine.

I think 6-3 with a win and a loss in the ACC Tournament (the dreaded 10 total losses) is quite possible, maybe even likely given our play so far. It would essentially be winning and losing the games we are currently expected to win or lose. Our NET rating would probably still be in the 50s and we would be among those having our bubble burst as so many experts are currently predicting. To advance in the standings and play our way in we need to play better than we have so far and beat the teams we are currently favored to beat AND a couple of the teams we are not favored to beat. We need to up our game. Beating Miami was great, but that was offset by losing to Florida State. We need to be more consistent.

The good news is that if we get Dort back healthy I think that is entirely likely. Camden and Bell are shooting well again. I think we really could step up our game. Eliminate the bad turnovers. It is all very possible. I think our best basketball could still be ahead of us, but we really need Dort back healthy.


We have a team this season with almost all new personnel, so you can expect the team to improve over the course of the season as players get more familiar with the system and their teammates, ie, more upside with the gelling than with a team that's already been in place going into the season.

This also validates the choice of an easier OOC schedule in order to avoid losses that would really hurt our resume, given that the long ACC round robin will eventually take care of the SOS.


I still think the OOC was overly easy. Strength of schedule is not really a thing in college basketball, what matters is who you play and who you beat. Beating bad teams and losing to good teams (that increase your strength of schedule) does not make the wins over bad teams "better wins." It is beating better teams that makes your NET ranking better.

We will see how this plays out but right now we need to up our game and beat the teams we are currently favored to beat and a couple teams we are not favored to beat to improve our ranking and play our way into the Tournament.
BeachedBear
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Admit it. We are SOOOOO happy to be having this problem, right now.
sycasey
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BeachedBear said:

Admit it. We are SOOOOO happy to be having this problem, right now.

Absolutely. To even be in the bubble conversation at this point is well above my expectations. Shows that perhaps Madsen actually is able to raise the floor as a coach. I was very skeptical of that until now.
calumnus
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sycasey said:

BeachedBear said:

Admit it. We are SOOOOO happy to be having this problem, right now.

Absolutely. To even be in the bubble conversation at this point is well above my expectations. Shows that perhaps Madsen actually is able to raise the floor as a coach. I was very skeptical of that until now.


It is absolutely fantastic. We have 9 regular season games left and every single remaining game is a critical, must watch big game: either a must win to drop out of the race or an opportunity for an upset that can move us up. It has been 9 years (Cuonzo's last year) since we have still had a chance at the Tournament and a reason to still care in February.
MiZery
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Possibly losing Dort for season will really hurt us. Hopefully he returns.
calumnus
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MiZery said:

Possibly losing Dort for season will really hurt us. Hopefully he returns.

Absolutely. The win over Miami without him was huge, but I think we need him to consistently win tough games. If he is out for the season I don't have much hope we make the Tournament.
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Can somebody provide an update on our injured players? What is up with Petraitis and Dort in particular?
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Pettraitis out for year. I believe he applied for another year. - which he'll get....

Dort - no update
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SMU vs Nc State. Who do we want to win? I'd imagine SMU...
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calumnus said:

I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.

You think it takes 23 to 24 to get in this year...I had heard more 21 as maybe, 22 a pretty sure thing???

Especially with the number of Quad 1 wins we have to date....
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OdontoBear66 said:

calumnus said:

I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.

You think it takes 23 to 24 to get in this year...I had heard more 21 as maybe, 22 a pretty sure thing???

Especially with the number of Quad 1 wins we have to date....

21 wins means going 5-4 out of our last 9. That would likely DROP us out. 22 wins and 6-3 probably keeps us out as well.

The selection committee doesn't really look at number of wins anymore (hasn't for quite a while). I would focus on NET ranking first. Probably need to be in the 40s or higher to make it.

At 15 wins (Dominican doesn't count), we're currently 51. That means we need to improve a bit. With 9 games, left - probably need to win 7 or 8 of them. That would equate 23 or 24 wins (if we add Dominican back in).

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BeachedBear said:

OdontoBear66 said:

calumnus said:

I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.

You think it takes 23 to 24 to get in this year...I had heard more 21 as maybe, 22 a pretty sure thing???

Especially with the number of Quad 1 wins we have to date....

21 wins means going 5-4 out of our last 9. That would likely DROP us out. 22 wins and 6-3 probably keeps us out as well.

The selection committee doesn't really look at number of wins anymore (hasn't for quite a while). I would focus on NET ranking first. Probably need to be in the 40s or higher to make it.

At 15 wins (Dominican doesn't count), we're currently 51. That means we need to improve a bit. With 9 games, left - probably need to win 7 or 8 of them. That would equate 23 or 24 wins (if we add Dominican back in).



Absolutely agree. Even with at large teams it's no longer uncommon to see one team make it with 18 wins while another is left out with maybe 24+ wins. There is no longer a "magic number."
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BeachedBear said:

OdontoBear66 said:

calumnus said:

I think we are currently out but can still play ourselves in. However, that probably means winning 7 or more likely 8 of our remaining 9. And/or get some good wins in the ACC Tournament.

The FSU and VT losses hurt. We can't lose more of those.

You think it takes 23 to 24 to get in this year...I had heard more 21 as maybe, 22 a pretty sure thing???

Especially with the number of Quad 1 wins we have to date....

21 wins means going 5-4 out of our last 9. That would likely DROP us out. 22 wins and 6-3 probably keeps us out as well.

The selection committee doesn't really look at number of wins anymore (hasn't for quite a while). I would focus on NET ranking first. Probably need to be in the 40s or higher to make it.

At 15 wins (Dominican doesn't count), we're currently 51. That means we need to improve a bit. With 9 games, left - probably need to win 7 or 8 of them. That would equate 23 or 24 wins (if we add Dominican back in).



Thanks. I was getting hopes up too much on what were uncertainties.
sycasey
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As more bracket predictions get released this week, Cal is inching closer. Still not quite "in" by the consensus but two spots away.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Shows that the Miami win helped way more than the FSU loss hurt.
BeachedBear
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It is also going to matter WHICH games we lose. A lose at home to GT will HURT so much more that losing on the road to Syracuse or Wake.

7-2 sort of needs to look like:

Georgia Tech - W
Clemson - W (probably the most important game the rest of the way)
@ Syracuse - L
@ Boston College - W
Stanfurd - W
SMU - W
Pitt - W
@Georgia Tech - W
@Wake Forest - L (might still need this as a W depending on how other teams do).

So win out at home and split on the road. Easy peasy.
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BeachedBear said:

> So win out at home and split on the road. Easy peasy.

put us in, coach, we're ready # rock and (donut) roll
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MiZery said:

SMU vs Nc State. Who do we want to win? I'd imagine SMU...


Probably NCSt, they are going to make the tourney barring a very bad finish, along with Duke, UNC, Lville, Clemson and UVA. if SMU loses, that's one fewer Q1 feather on their bubble resume.

SMU, Miami, Cal and VT are the bubble teams. We control our destiny, but it wouldn't hurt if we're ahead of SMU and Miami before the brackets are set.
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I'm worried about Georgia Tech as sort of a trap game. Looks like no way Dort will be back, plus the focus seems to be on the next nine games, instead of the next one game. 5 PM tip probably doesn't help get butts in seats, either.
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