Who are Cal's 2026-27 starting 5?

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barsad
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There are a lot of possibilities now with 14 roster spots filled, one to go. How about
Sularski - PG
Wilkins - SG
Indrusaitis
Ali
Dort/Mitrovic
Intuit
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improbable
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RedlessWardrobe
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My guess is Cooper is the starting point guard and most likely Dort starts at center although his minutes might get cut.
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barsad said:

There are a lot of possibilities now with 14 roster spots filled, one to go. How about
Sularski - PG
Wilkins - SG
Indrusaitis
Ali
Dort/Mitrovic

I think Sularski was brought in late as a backup backup PG/utility tool. Aren't we paying Ross/Cooper to start?

Wilkins? I thought he was more of a wing player. Maybe Idrusaitis at the 2.

Ali at the 3.

I can't imagine NOT starting Daubaris (might be the best player on the team?). He's the 4.

Mitrovic is a 17 yr old skinny Freshman. I don't see him pushing DORT out of the starting lineup.


If this were Mastermind, I think you get 2 black and 2 white pegs.

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barsad said:

There are a lot of possibilities now with 14 roster spots filled, one to go. How about
Sularski - PG
Wilkins - SG
Indrusaitis
Ali
Dort/Mitrovic

If nothing else this generates a few posts during a dead period.
Intuit
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"...if nothing else..." the OP is unworthy.
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PG Ross- unless Cooper proves better, Ross is the top choice. He will get the offense started

SG Indrusaitis- He got a lot better in ACC play down the stretch of the season. He looked awesome playing against us.

WING Ali- His tape looked great and has a better game than Wilkins at this point.

PF Daubaris- He has an outside shot and can rebound. Yeanay is 30lbs heavier but is 2" shorter and did not show enough at the end of the season. He has played very little in the last 2 years.

C DORT- When he was healthy he held his own. His backup Kocanas will get 10-15 minutes each game.

First off the bench is Cooper- He can play PG or SG.
First Wing off the bench- Wilkins plays tough defense and high upside.
Surprise player- Ruff will take minutes at SG & Wing
Go Bears!
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BeachedBear said:

I can't imagine NOT starting Daubaris (might be the best player on the team?). He's the 4.

Mitrovic is a 17 yr old skinny Freshman. I don't see him pushing DORT out of the starting lineup.


I can. In fact, we all should try to imagine it because with Dort taking all the minutes at center I see no tournament in our near future. Do the homework and watch the highlights, Mitrovic is 19 in a couple months, not 17, and he's going to be 3X better than Dort (I don't know if that happens in his first year, but we have to hope).
Good to know about Daubaris being a must-start (Mitrovic and him are the same age, by the way), but I can't say that 11 PPG in U18 Euro-ball really proves it, he'll have to show it against real competition here.
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/players/342144-dominykas-daubaris
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barsad said:

BeachedBear said:

I can't imagine NOT starting Daubaris (might be the best player on the team?). He's the 4.

Mitrovic is a 17 yr old skinny Freshman. I don't see him pushing DORT out of the starting lineup.


I can. In fact, we all should try to imagine it because with Dort taking all the minutes at center I see no tournament in our near future. Do the homework and watch the highlights, Mitrovic is 19 in a couple months, not 17, and he's going to be 3X better than Dort (I don't know if that happens in his first year, but we have to hope).
Good to know about Daubaris being a must-start (Mitrovic and him are the same age, by the way), but I can't say that 11 PPG in U18 Euro-ball really proves it, he'll have to show it against real competition here.
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/players/342144-dominykas-daubaris

It is not clear if you are responding to my WAG about Daubaris or Mitrovic. And the OP post was about starting, not ALL of the minutes or most. I agree that Mitrovic needs to contribute and that we cannot rely on DORT 100% at the 5 (I don't believe anyone one said that).

IF Mitrovic can start over DORT - that means he is that good - since DORT has proven he is at least a competent ACC Center. And that would be good news. But my expectations are not that high on Mitrovic (but hopeful)

As for his age, I was going by what the BI Moderators stated in comparing Mitrovic to Kocanas. I have not attended any of the birthday parties to confirm.
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BeachedBear said:

barsad said:

BeachedBear said:

I can't imagine NOT starting Daubaris (might be the best player on the team?). He's the 4.

Mitrovic is a 17 yr old skinny Freshman. I don't see him pushing DORT out of the starting lineup.


I can. In fact, we all should try to imagine it because with Dort taking all the minutes at center I see no tournament in our near future. Do the homework and watch the highlights, Mitrovic is 19 in a couple months, not 17, and he's going to be 3X better than Dort (I don't know if that happens in his first year, but we have to hope).
Good to know about Daubaris being a must-start (Mitrovic and him are the same age, by the way), but I can't say that 11 PPG in U18 Euro-ball really proves it, he'll have to show it against real competition here.
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/players/342144-dominykas-daubaris

It is not clear if you are responding to my WAG about Daubaris or Mitrovic. And the OP post was about starting, not ALL of the minutes or most. I agree that Mitrovic needs to contribute and that we cannot rely on DORT 100% at the 5 (I don't believe anyone one said that).

IF Mitrovic can start over DORT - that means he is that good - since DORT has proven he is at least a competent ACC Center. And that would be good news. But my expectations are not that high on Mitrovic (but hopeful)

As for his age, I was going by what the BI Moderators stated in comparing Mitrovic to Kocanas. I have not attended any of the birthday parties to confirm.

Birthday party invites are a premium membership bonus.
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barsad said:

BeachedBear said:

I can't imagine NOT starting Daubaris (might be the best player on the team?). He's the 4.

Mitrovic is a 17 yr old skinny Freshman. I don't see him pushing DORT out of the starting lineup.


I can. In fact, we all should try to imagine it because with Dort taking all the minutes at center I see no tournament in our near future. Do the homework and watch the highlights, Mitrovic is 19 in a couple months, not 17, and he's going to be 3X better than Dort (I don't know if that happens in his first year, but we have to hope).
Good to know about Daubaris being a must-start (Mitrovic and him are the same age, by the way), but I can't say that 11 PPG in U18 Euro-ball really proves it, he'll have to show it against real competition here.
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/players/342144-dominykas-daubaris

Not sure how it will shake out, but I would think 11ppg in U18 Euro-ball beats 5.7ppg in high-school.
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Being a retired octogenarian, I have the ability to attend multiple pre-season practices. Last season it was interesting to see how Mark and his staff changed their rotations between the blue and gold squads in order to see which players best complemented each other, with the objective of putting the best team on the court at tipoff which is not necessarily our best 5 players. Mark does have a bias for maturity-experience but allows young players to earn a starting spot, much like Jerimiah Wilkinson did 2 years ago. In other words, it is premature today to even forecast who the 5 starters will be, even if all our players are healthy and in gameday shape which has not been the case in recent years.
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Harky4 said:

Being a retired octogenarian, I have the ability to attend multiple pre-season practices. Last season it was interesting to see how Mark and his staff changed their rotations between the blue and gold squads in order to see which players best complemented each other, with the objective of putting the best team on the court at tipoff which is not necessarily our best 5 players. Mark does have a bias for maturity-experience but allows young players to earn a starting spot, much like Jerimiah Wilkinson did 2 years ago. In other words, it is premature today to even forecast who the 5 starters will be, even if all our players are healthy and in gameday shape which has not been the case in recent years.

I recall the JW situation differently. Madsen stuck with Blacksher over JW for the entire 1st half of the season before JW got a chance to shine. Madsen stuck with the veteran too long and as a result we only had Jeremiah for a few months and then he was gone for good. The same could happen with Dort-Mitrovic, we'll see. I agree that injuries will play a big part again for this team, but I like our depth this year better than last year.
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I think Sularski is going to be the dark horse. I've seen him live. He's huge, skilled, and going to surprise people I think.
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Przehuj91 said:

I think Sularski is going to be the dark horse. I've seen him live. He's huge, skilled, and going to surprise people I think.

huh.. a first post. welcome to bear insider '91
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barsad said:

BeachedBear said:

I can't imagine NOT starting Daubaris (might be the best player on the team?). He's the 4.

Mitrovic is a 17 yr old skinny Freshman. I don't see him pushing DORT out of the starting lineup.


I can. In fact, we all should try to imagine it because with Dort taking all the minutes at center I see no tournament in our near future. Do the homework and watch the highlights, Mitrovic is 19 in a couple months, not 17, and he's going to be 3X better than Dort (I don't know if that happens in his first year, but we have to hope).
Good to know about Daubaris being a must-start (Mitrovic and him are the same age, by the way), but I can't say that 11 PPG in U18 Euro-ball really proves it, he'll have to show it against real competition here.
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/players/342144-dominykas-daubaris

He has shown it, do the homework and read the MODS posts on him. Madsen did a TOSH and flew to Europe to sign him. I think that says a lot. Dort was very good last year before his injury, not elite but very good. I am comfortable with him locking down the center position. If someone can challenge him then it just makes us that much better.
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Dort can absolutely lock down the starting 5

But we need a second team center regardless

Basketball Bear said:

barsad said:

BeachedBear said:

I can't imagine NOT starting Daubaris (might be the best player on the team?). He's the 4.

Mitrovic is a 17 yr old skinny Freshman. I don't see him pushing DORT out of the starting lineup.


I can. In fact, we all should try to imagine it because with Dort taking all the minutes at center I see no tournament in our near future. Do the homework and watch the highlights, Mitrovic is 19 in a couple months, not 17, and he's going to be 3X better than Dort (I don't know if that happens in his first year, but we have to hope).
Good to know about Daubaris being a must-start (Mitrovic and him are the same age, by the way), but I can't say that 11 PPG in U18 Euro-ball really proves it, he'll have to show it against real competition here.
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/players/342144-dominykas-daubaris

He has shown it, do the homework and read the MODS posts on him. Madsen did a TOSH and flew to Europe to sign him. I think that says a lot. Dort was very good last year before his injury, not elite but very good. I am comfortable with him locking down the center position. If someone can challenge him then it just makes us that much better.
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barsad said:

Harky4 said:

Being a retired octogenarian, I have the ability to attend multiple pre-season practices. Last season it was interesting to see how Mark and his staff changed their rotations between the blue and gold squads in order to see which players best complemented each other, with the objective of putting the best team on the court at tipoff which is not necessarily our best 5 players. Mark does have a bias for maturity-experience but allows young players to earn a starting spot, much like Jerimiah Wilkinson did 2 years ago. In other words, it is premature today to even forecast who the 5 starters will be, even if all our players are healthy and in gameday shape which has not been the case in recent years.

I recall the JW situation differently. Madsen stuck with Blacksher over JW for the entire 1st half of the season before JW got a chance to shine. Madsen stuck with the veteran too long and as a result we only had Jeremiah for a few months and then he was gone for good. The same could happen with Dort-Mitrovic, we'll see. I agree that injuries will play a big part again for this team, but I like our depth this year better than last year.


I agree with this last take, and hope Mitrovic proves better than Dort from the get go, that would be great. However, I don't agree with the previous post. Dort was statistically our most valuable player last year and, but for injuries, we could have made the Tournament with Dort playing the majority of the minutes at center. He is not as bad as you make him out to be, even as we can always hope for better. Even if Mitrovic starts, Dort will need to play a lot of minutes and it is good that we have him back,
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Dort will be our starting center and get the majority of the minutes ... 100%
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I just looked at the Nov/Dec boxscores for the 24/25 season and Blacksher played solidly. He dropped off significantly (at least offensively) when we reached conference play - as will happen when your non conference
opponents are weaker than your conference opponents. The real turning point was the Pitt game where Blacksher put up a goose egg and JW got 24 in relief.
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MilleniaBear said:

I just looked at the Nov/Dec boxscores for the 24/25 season and Blacksher played solidly. He dropped off significantly (at least offensively) when we reached conference play - as will happen when your non conference
opponents are weaker than your conference opponents. The real turning point was the Pitt game where Blacksher put up a goose egg and JW got 24 in relief.

Madsen is a good coach, but not infallible, we should be honest when he makes mistakes. Blacksher was a bust and we would have had a better record in 24-25 if JW had been unleashed. Look at the game logs, JW didn't even get past 30 min in a game until Jan 22, that means he only was a true "starter" for 14 out of 32 games. Just want to make sure Madsen doesn't make that mistake again.
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MilleniaBear said:

I just looked at the Nov/Dec boxscores for the 24/25 season and Blacksher played solidly. He dropped off significantly (at least offensively) when we reached conference play - as will happen when your non conference
opponents are weaker than your conference opponents. The real turning point was the Pitt game where Blacksher put up a goose egg and JW got 24 in relief.

Looking at the box score it appeared you only looked at his offensive statistics. He was completely dominated on the defensive side of the ball. Simply not big enough or quick enough to handle anybody.
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barsad said:

MilleniaBear said:

I just looked at the Nov/Dec boxscores for the 24/25 season and Blacksher played solidly. He dropped off significantly (at least offensively) when we reached conference play - as will happen when your non conference
opponents are weaker than your conference opponents. The real turning point was the Pitt game where Blacksher put up a goose egg and JW got 24 in relief.

Madsen is a good coach, but not infallible, we should be honest when he makes mistakes. Blacksher was a bust and we would have had a better record in 24-25 if JW had been unleashed. Look at the game logs, JW didn't even get past 30 min in a game until Jan 22, that means he only was a true "starter" for 14 out of 32 games. Just want to make sure Madsen doesn't make that mistake again.

It appears Madsen has shifted his preference for guards with respect to size and experience. Before, he was landing smaller guards from mid-majors. Cone from NAU, Blacksher from Grand Canyon. This hasn't worked for P4 level competition.

Since then he's only added 1 guard shorter than 6'2, TT Carr, who has already moved on. The guards that he's added this offseason are 6'3, 6'3, 6/5 etc. He's also prioritizing P4 experience. Cooper is the only transfer that's coming from a lower level.

I've never been a fan of smaller guards. Too much of a defensive liability. But, it just so happens we have one of the best small guards to ever play college basketball. : )
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BC Calfan said:

I've never been a fan of smaller guards. Too much of a defensive liability. But, it just so happens we have one of the best small guards to ever play college basketball. : )
Both Jerome Randle and Rusty Critchfield?
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KJ was small as well
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stu said:

BC Calfan said:

I've never been a fan of smaller guards. Too much of a defensive liability. But, it just so happens we have one of the best small guards to ever play college basketball. : )

Both Jerome Randle and Rusty Critchfield?


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PG - Cooper (better offense than Ross, albeit more of a combo guard)
SG - Indrusaitis (I can see him and Cooper operating together as somewhat hybrid guards … kinda like Carlisle and Kilgore back in the day)
SF - Ali (length + shooting)
PF - Daubaris (hard to imagine Madsen went to the lengths he did just to secure a backup big)
C - Dort (a tough, proven ACC big who has improved greatly while at Cal)

6th man - Ross - classic backup PG profile; will run the offense and take care of the ball for your but lacks dynamism
7th man - Wilkins - his frosh-soph improvement is an X factor for this team; if he can get a decent shot and get more under control … man, lots of potential
8th man - Mitrovic/Yeaney
9th man - Mitrovic/Yeaney
10th man - Ruff
Deep bench / development - Bakare, Sularski, Kocanas

If Yeaney, Bakare or Ruff can pop that would be nice. Mitrovic is super intriguing but seems quite young physically. Sularski … I'd like to be surprised but we'll see.

I don't get the Dort hate. He's definitely not an All American but he was a very solid player who could be very good this year if he improves this off season similarly to how he did last off season. He was also an absolute warrior against the stellar UNC bigs in that huge win at Haascan't forget that.
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Wow. Circus King crossover, I love the handle and the post. I agree with almost everything you said. I will add, after rewatching the Wright State Game on you tube recently that Cooper is an excellent Point Guard. He outplayed Pippen last year, they guarded each other. He played exclusively at point against a good defender, created shots for himself and others. Broke the press and the offense ran through him. Your points about Dort were point on, the hate for him on this thread is absurd. He was our best rebounder and defender last year. The drop off when he was not on the floor was greater than any other player. Fouls were a major problem, but many of them were caused when he was setting screens at the top of the key instead of being down low where he was much more effective. He also was double teaming the ball on defense drawing fouls 25 feet from the basket.
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Good stuff on Cooper. Encouraging! Admittedly, I only really know about him from what I've read and highlight clips. Barely remember the Wright State game. This season, I'll watch the preseason more closely for guys who burn us and thus make themselves 2027 portal targets for Madsen!
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Having Dort back was the most important "recruiting" win of this roster.

He is good offensive and defensive player who knows the schemes, provides continuity and Madsen says he's a team leader.

Yes, he did foul on the perimeter sometimes when he was hedging/blitzing but that's going to happen sometimes. For someone that big and strong his quickness to double on the perimeter and get back to the post is a big reason our defense improved last season

This season I expect Madsen to give him the green light on 15 footers when we have a legit 4 on the floor with him
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HoopDreams said:

Having Dort back was the most important "recruiting" win of this roster.

He is good offensive and defensive player who knows the schemes, provides continuity and Madsen says he's a team leader.

Yes, he did foul on the perimeter sometimes when he was hedging/blitzing but that's going to happen sometimes. For someone that big and strong his quickness to double on the perimeter and get back to the post is a big reason our defense improved last season

This season I expect Madsen to give him the green light on 15 footers when we have a legit 4 on the floor with him


One last add on Dort and his impact. Watch games from last season. When he was in, opponents stayed out of the paint. When he was out, they abused us in the paint. Regardless of stats, he was one of the most impactful players on our roster last season.

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CircusKingCrossover said:

Good stuff on Cooper. Encouraging! Admittedly, I only really know about him from what I've read and highlight clips. Barely remember the Wright State game. This season, I'll watch the preseason more closely for guys who burn us and thus make themselves 2027 portal targets for Madsen!


You can watch a full game replay:

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Watched most of the minutes Cooper was in.

Wright State was one of those "cream puffs" that Cal typically loses to early in the season. They were only down 4 with 3 minutes to go, and down 5 with 2 minutes to go. They won the Horizon League and went to the NCAA losing to Virginia

Cooper was their starting PG as a freshman and played poised on offense, secure with the ball but not flashy, shifty, or super quick.

Good shooter and solid passer.

Overall comparable to freshman Carr, with better shooting and more length, but not as athletic and not quite the passer as Carr.

Defensively he has solid on and off the ball. Pippin didn't get good shots when Cooper defended him except for one blow by

Thanks for posting. I feel more comfortable at the PG position after watching, although it reminded me of how much we are going to miss Ames

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Cal 25-26 Team in WS per 40 minutes (min 300 min)
1. Dort .169
2. Camden .150
3. Bell .136
4. Pippen .133
5. Ilic .123
6. Ames .115
7. Carr .112
8. Dorsey .069
9. Campbell .042

Definitely glad Dort is coming back
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