Bubble: Sunday night

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HoopDreams
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after the loss we drop 1 spot.
we need every win to get to the tourney, but that's better than expected given this was a home game

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Before VT game:
stu
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Why is Stanford, which lost twice this week, still ahead of us?
OneKeg
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Somehow, Stanford can lose 7 of their last 8 as they have and still be in? So lame.
SFCALBear72
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The more they plummet and we ascend the better for us.

Charmin said it's because of their two non-conference wins, Oregon and a ranked UW team at the time. Better wins than what we have on our resume. A win over Vanderbilt would look really good right now. Oh well.

We need to win out!
RedlessWardrobe
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HoopDreams said:

after the loss we drop 1 spot.
we need every win to get to the tourney, but that's better than expected given this was a home game

Current:


Before VT game:


Thanks for posting this Hoop Dreams. Interesting that we got an update on a Sunday. Is this being updated daily moving forward?
HoopDreams
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They usually update the bubble on Sunday night

RedlessWardrobe said:

HoopDreams said:

after the loss we drop 1 spot.
we need every win to get to the tourney, but that's better than expected given this was a home game

Current:


Before VT game:


Thanks for posting this Hoop Dreams. Interesting that we got an update on a Sunday. Is this being updated daily moving forward?
CalFanatic
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7-7 in ACC play California isn't in the tournament but 5-9 Stanford is. Got it. Makes total sense to me.
BearBint
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CalFanatic said:

7-7 in ACC play California isn't in the tournament but 5-9 Stanford is. Got it. Makes total sense to me.

Don't get me going again, CalFanatic! I growl about this every day, and twice on Sunday.
"Don't get distracted, myself. Don't get distracted." Self-talk from a young relative
HoopDreams
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Cal just made the cut and is hanging on the bubble

Certainly we need to beat FSU today
ncbears
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SFCALBear72 said:

The more they plummet and we ascend the better for us.

Charmin said it's because of their two non-conference wins, Oregon and a ranked UW team at the time. Better wins than what we have on our resume. A win over Vanderbilt would look really good right now. Oh well.

We need to win out!

Stanford also has a win at North Carolina -
ncbears
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As of this morning, Cal's NET Is at 55. (1-7 Q1, 2-3 Q2, 3-2 Q3, 11-0 Q4)
Clemson is 38 (stil a quad 2 home game)
SMU 208 (quad 4 home)

Somehow Stanfurd is at 46. (2-6 Q1, 3-4 Q2, 3-1 Q3, 9-1 Q4)
Notre Dame hanging on at 25 for a Cal Quad 1 win!

The one Q1 win and the two Q3 losses (Missouri 86, and Auburn 79) seem to be weighing down Cal's chances. Cal could argue (if there were someone involved enough) that the two Q3 losses were early in the season and should have less weight applied to them.

An interesting comparison could be Florida - 16-13, 1-8 Q1, 0-2 Q2, 3-2 Q3 and 12-1 Q4) but at #50 in the Net. Creme's 2/20 Bracket did not have Florida even on the bubble.

Another interesting comparison is Nebraska - #28 - but, 17-11, 1-10 Q1, 3-0 Q2, 3-1 Q3 and 10-0 Q4). Creme's 2/20 has them first four out. You can already hear the screams whichever way the selection committee goes on Nebraska. Their Q2 and Q3 are better than Cal's record in those quads.

SFCALBear72
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Or how about "partial credit" for a narrow loss (65-74) to what is now the #5 team in the country (Vanderbilt) in Paris (nearly 5,600 miles away) with virtually a "new" team.

Grasping at straws. Lol.
ncbears
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SFCALBear72 said:

Grasping at straws. Lol.

Paper straws or plastic straws?
wvitbear
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I think we are basing our lot with the last two regular season games. but there is still the playoffrs and we may have Taylor back then.

My friend from Duke wrote me that if you don't bring your a game now in the ACC, you will get your lunch handed to you. See their loss this weekend. He thinks we are a very good team. But watch out for Clemson.
Woodacre
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Sunday and the several days proceeding it were not good for Cal, not just because of the disappointing loss, with ramifications in the NET, ACC seeding, and potential NCAA tournament, but because some of the teams that Cal lost to also dropped in the NET. The away loss to Stanford dropped from Quad 1 to Quad 2 as Stanford went down to 46 (45 is the cutoff); Missouri, in the midst of a horrible stretch, went down from 69 to 86 in about 2 weeks, meaning that the Quad 2 loss is now Quad 3; and Harvard continues to drift away from having that win move up to Quad 2. Thank goodness Notre Dame is hanging in at #25, the cutoff for Quad 1 home wins.

Sure do wish that Taylor would be back for Clemson, but the coach's projection was 3/1 at the earliest.

If Cal can sweep Clemson and SMU, and Stanford do the same, it would put Cal and Clemson both at 10-8, giving Cal the tiebreaker. And if Notre Dame can lose at home to Syracuse and away at Louisville (both are good possibilities), ND would also end at 10-8, and again Cal would have the tiebreaker. So, if all these wishes come true, Cal would finish 8th, have a 1st round ACC bye, then play Clemson again as a 2nd round match up.
ncbears
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as of 2/24 - Creme has Cal in "next four out" so there's a lot of ground to make up. Clemson is "last four byes" category.
CBS also has Cal in the "next four out" category. It also has Clemson in last four in.

Confirmation that Thursday's game is an opportunity.
RedlessWardrobe
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ncbears said:

as of 2/24 - Creme has Cal in "next four out" so there's a lot of ground to make up. Clemson is "last four byes" category.
CBS also has Cal in the "next four out" category. It also has Clemson in last four in.

Confirmation that Thursday's game is an opportunity.


For sure. Based on how disappointing sundays game was that alll but eliminated us, having a game against a barely in team like Clemson is the best we can ask for
wvitbear
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Clemson just beat Duke.
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