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So who in the Trump inner circle you reckon has a healthy stake in OpenAI?

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Aunburdened said:

I just hope when the robots go on their murderous rampage, they come for the billionaires who built them first



This is disturbing. Sounds like a "Terminator" scenario.

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wifeisafurd said:

Aunburdened said:

I just hope when the robots go on their murderous rampage, they come for the billionaires who built them first



This is disturbing. Sounds like a "Terminator" scenario.

Warning smoking occurs:





Well, it is trained by its masters
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bearister said:

So who in the Trump inner circle you reckon has a healthy stake in OpenAI?




There's probably some investment manager guy that nobody has ever heard of who Trump meets with to plot all their market manipulation schemes. Like how Madoff had his back office person.
They meet. Dude executes pre-positioning trades, then Trump says or does something bombastic, and then trade gets unwound as markets react.
One day, everyone will be amazed to learn of "Mr Smith".

Or, maybe it's in plain sight: J Kushner and their gifted $2B slush fund.

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wifeisafurd said:

Aunburdened said:

I just hope when the robots go on their murderous rampage, they come for the billionaires who built them first



This is disturbing. Sounds like a "Terminator" scenario.

Warning smoking occurs:




Halfway through he says "how were we supposed to know?"

That's precisely where I insert myself in with the Trump narrative for his voters.

Yeah, right. You all couldn't see it coming???
Clear as day to me.
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"An AI agent went rogue and started a side hustle mining cryptocurrencies, Axios' Herb Scribner writes from a research paper published by a team affiliated with China-based Alibaba.

Why it matters: Cryptocurrency (digital money) offers AI agents a pathway into the real economy. They can set up their own businesses, draft contracts and exchange funds.

The paper from the Alibaba-affiliated research team says an AI agent attempted unauthorized cryptocurrency mining during training a surprise behavior that triggered internal security alarms.

The researchers who were building a new AI agent called ROME said they found "unanticipated" and spontaneous behaviors emerge "without any explicit instruction and, more troublingly, outside the bounds of the intended sandbox."

The agent made a "reverse SSH tunnel" essentially opening a hidden backdoor from the inside of the system to an outside computer. "Notably, these events were not triggered by prompts requesting tunneling or mining," the report said.

In response, the researchers tightened restrictions on the model, and improved its training process to curb unsafe behavior.

Flashback: We saw something similar with the Moltbook saga. Moltbook, a Reddit-style social network, showed AI agents chatting with each other about the work they did for humans. They talked about crypto, too."
Axios

I can hardly wait for the day when AI empties the entirety of Don Jr.'s and Eric's crypto billions. Those lads will be standing on the platform scratching their rear ends as the train is pulling out of the station with this guy standing on the observation platform of the last train car:



Bonus article:

"China this week set out a five-year roadmap to turbocharge scientific breakthroughs and embed AI across its industrial economic machine, framing tech dominance as a core national-security goal in its sharpening rivalry with the U.S., Reuters reports.

Why it matters: The plan shows China's clear calculation enforcing a unified focus on the long game, while the U.S. is scrambled and distracted.

In its 15th strategic plan since adopting Soviet-style quinquennial policy cycles in the 1950s, Beijing outlined a bet that technology, not consumption, will drive its next phase of development despite growing structural pressures.

Ambitions span biomedicine, quantum tech, atomic-scale manufacturing, hyperscale computing clusters, nuclear fusion, brain-computer interfaces and commercializing AI-powered humanoid robots."
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Data: Anthropic. Chart: Axios Visuals

"Computer programmer, customer service rep, data-entry keyer and medical record specialist rank among the most AI-vulnerable occupations, Axios' Courtenay Brown writes from a new Anthropic study of "AI displacement risk."

Among the jobs least susceptible to AI disruption, given how human-intensive they are: cooks, lifeguards, dishwashers."
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bearister said:



"Computer programmer, customer service rep, data-entry keyer and medical record specialist rank among the most AI-vulnerable occupations, Axios' Courtenay Brown writes from a new Anthropic study of "AI displacement risk."

Among the jobs least susceptible to AI disruption, given how human-intensive they are: cooks, lifeguards, dishwashers."
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I'd think nursing is safe!
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I want to recognize your evolution as a BI community member.
Years ago, not many, your posts consisted of opinions about sports, then into politics. Snarky banter and play fun graphics often accompanied your posts.
Always a fun read!

But increasingly you are providing much more value add in your posts, fascinating takes on society as it changes and thus is often coming from conversations with AI you are no doubt having.
Same occurs with me, and it just goes to show how value the tool is. You and I are filling our minds with new topics that are now easily accessible to us.



As such, branching off your post above:

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Do you think quantum computing will be able to break passwords like banking and email and cryptocurrency blockchain accounts rendering bitcoin worthless?



Short answer: Quantum computers could break some current cryptography, but the situation is more nuanced than "Bitcoin becomes worthless overnight." The timing, which systems are vulnerable, and how quickly they can adapt all matter. Let's break it down.



1. Why quantum computers threaten current passwords and keys

Two famous quantum algorithms matter here:
Shor's Algorithm
Grover's Algorithm

Shor's Algorithm

This is the big one.

It can efficiently break the math behind most modern public-key cryptography, including:
RSA (cryptosystem)
Elliptic Curve Cryptography

These are used for:
online banking
HTTPS websites
email encryption
cryptocurrency signatures

Bitcoin specifically uses Bitcoin signatures based on elliptic curves (ECDSA).

If a large enough quantum computer exists, it could derive private keys from public keys.



Grover's Algorithm

This speeds up brute-force attacks on symmetric encryption.

Example:
Advanced Encryption Standard

Grover effectively halves the security level:
AES-256 -> roughly AES-128 strength against quantum attack.

But AES-256 is still considered safe even in a quantum world.



2. Would Bitcoin be instantly destroyed?

Probably not instantly, for several reasons.

A key detail in Bitcoin

Bitcoin addresses do not expose the public key until you spend the coins.

Process:
1. You publish a hash of the public key
2. When spending, the public key is revealed

Quantum attacker flow:
1. Watch blockchain
2. See a transaction revealing the public key
3. Use quantum computer to derive the private key
4. Steal coins before confirmation

So the risk window exists during transaction broadcasting.

Older addresses where the public key is already known are more vulnerable.



3. Banking and internet systems could upgrade

Cryptography has already started preparing.

Researchers are developing post-quantum cryptography, such as:
CRYSTALS-Kyber
CRYSTALS-Dilithium

These were standardized by National Institute of Standards and Technology in 2024.

Major companies are already testing them:
Google
Cloudflare
IBM

Banks and websites can upgrade cryptography without replacing the whole system.



4. The real timeline problem

Breaking modern crypto likely requires millions of stable logical qubits.

Current machines:
IBM: ~1000 noisy qubits
Google Quantum AI: similar scale

Experts estimate:
10-20+ years before a machine can break Bitcoin-scale ECC.

Some say longer.



5. A more subtle risk: "harvest now, decrypt later"

Governments might:
1. Record encrypted traffic today
2. Decrypt it once quantum computers mature

That threatens long-term secrets, but not everyday web browsing much.



6. What would likely happen to Bitcoin

If quantum computers suddenly became capable:
1. Panic selling
2. Emergency protocol upgrade
3. Migration to quantum-resistant signatures

Bitcoin has already survived several major protocol upgrades.

But the transition could be chaotic and politically messy.



My honest assessment

Quantum computing is a real but distant threat.

The likely sequence:
1. Cryptographers deploy quantum-safe systems
2. Banks and internet adopt them
3. Cryptocurrencies adapt (or new ones replace them)

The biggest risk is slow governance in crypto, not the physics.



If you want, I can also show you something very few people realize about Bitcoin and quantum computers - there's a mathematical quirk that means millions of bitcoins may already be vulnerable if large quantum computers ever appear. It's a fascinating corner of the system.



How many Google searched articles would I have had to read in order to get a scant inkling of all that?
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I thought this was AI being passed off as real:



….and then found out it is real.






"The shirtless, backward-running stair enthusiast at Red Rocks Amphitheatre is known as Slavic, often referred to as "Beast" or the "Red Rocks Guy". A local ultra-runner, Slavic is famous for intense, frequent workouts at the venue, including running down steps backward and rolling down benches."
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https://www.redrocksonline.com
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"The AI race is shifting from who has the best model to who can monetize the fastest and Anthropic is pulling ahead with the customers that matter most: enterprises, Axios AI+ co-author Madison Mills writes.

Why it matters: AI companies are building the plane while it's still flying. Turns out they need more business-class seats.

Anthropic is now capturing over 73% of all spending among companies buying AI tools for the first time, according to customer data from business accounting vendor Ramp.

Just 10 weeks ago, the split with OpenAI was 50/50. It was 60/40 in OpenAI's favor as recently as early December."
Axios

*Trump's sworn enemy, Anthropic, is the best AI out there, and as Trump says, "Everybody knows it."

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bearister said:

> .. sworn enemy, Anthropic, is the best AI out there, and as Trump says, "Everybody knows it."

um, good?
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