SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.
Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.
For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.
It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.
Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.
For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.
It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.
Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.
For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.
It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
It is hard to take serious a bombardment of smug posts which while sometimes humors, generally lack substance, and all ending with the absurd catchphrase of unity over division, in a forum where you contribute nothing but division. A fairy tale moniker seems appropriate.
The Go Bears Forever phrase clearly does show you are a man of high intellect. Thus, responding substantively regarding Tesla's business prospects might garner respect if you had some thoughts to share.
Aunburdened said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.
Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.
For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.
It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
It is hard to take serious a bombardment of smug posts which while sometimes humors, generally lack substance, and all ending with the absurd catchphrase of unity over division, in a forum where you contribute nothing but division. A fairy tale moniker seems appropriate.
The Go Bears Forever phrase clearly does show you are a man of high intellect. Thus, responding substantively regarding Tesla's business prospects might garner respect if you had some thoughts to share.
She's not a man unless she's recently decided to change her pronouns.
wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.
Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.
For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.
It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.
Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.
For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.
It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
I just re-read and it sure sounds like your 1200 word essay AGREES with the link I posted. Thanks!
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.
Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.
For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.
It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
I just re-read and it sure sounds like your 1200 word essay AGREES with the link I posted. Thanks!
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
Smug again. The "essay" says the market already discounted the information in the article.
The stock price seems high based on market fundamentals, but predictions Tesla stock will tank by you and other posters over the last years have been at odds with market, and run up in stock price makes the OP heading seem clueless.
wifeisafurd said:
Smug again. The "essay" says the market already discounted the information in the article.
The stock price seems high based on market fundamentals, but predictions Tesla stock will tank by you and other posters over the last years have been at odds with market, and run up in stock price makes the OP heading seem clueless.
wifeisafurd said:Aunburdened said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.
Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.
For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.
It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
It is hard to take serious a bombardment of smug posts which while sometimes humors, generally lack substance, and all ending with the absurd catchphrase of unity over division, in a forum where you contribute nothing but division. A fairy tale moniker seems appropriate.
The Go Bears Forever phrase clearly does show you are a man of high intellect. Thus, responding substantively regarding Tesla's business prospects might garner respect if you had some thoughts to share.
She's not a man unless she's recently decided to change her pronouns.
Why are you labeling Goldilocks a she?
DiabloWags said:wifeisafurd said:
Smug again. The "essay" says the market already discounted the information in the article.
The stock price seems high based on market fundamentals, but predictions Tesla stock will tank by you and other posters over the last years have been at odds with market, and run up in stock price makes the OP heading seem clueless.
Why does a poster stating that Tesla is a hard "pass" for him make him clueless?
Why are you so upset about someone not being interested in owning TSLA?
Sounds personal.
The "smug" comment not withstanding.
wifeisafurd said:
The problem is you try to engage and in a substantive dialog, and because the guy doesn't know the subjective matter, you get one sentence zingers, which has become the modus operandi on the board, and when combined with others that do this, ruined the board. Say what you well about Concord Tom, you at least get intelligent discussion, even when he can be hijacking the thread. Goldilocks really is about being divisive, and getting into a back and forth on true blue vs MAGA, and not discussing the topic on which he actually posted.
DiabloWags said:wifeisafurd said:
The problem is you try to engage and in a substantive dialog, and because the guy doesn't know the subjective matter, you get one sentence zingers, which has become the modus operandi on the board, and when combined with others that do this, ruined the board. Say what you well about Concord Tom, you at least get intelligent discussion, even when he can be hijacking the thread. Goldilocks really is about being divisive, and getting into a back and forth on true blue vs MAGA, and not discussing the topic on which he actually posted.
Well, to be quite honest, there is a "Gang of Five" on this board that does the same exact thing.
They "speak" via memes and tweets and one sentence zingers (as you say) or do nothing but answer a question by asking another question. Several of them post 30, 40, and 50+ times a day littering the board with zero organic thoughts or informed discussion. Some even pride themselves on posting "facts" no matter how misinformed they are. They clearly are not here to engage in a genuine honest discussion. This is what has led to quality posters like Unit2Sucks leaving the board.
This is why I have put one of them on ignore.
This is why I have established a self-imposed limit of 10 posts a day for 2026.
I agree, this OT forum can be far better than it is.
But the platform's owner doesn't appear to be interested in implementing changes that support honest discussion.
Until then, the quality of content in this forum will never improve.
Aunburdened said:wifeisafurd said:Aunburdened said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.
Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.
For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.
It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
It is hard to take serious a bombardment of smug posts which while sometimes humors, generally lack substance, and all ending with the absurd catchphrase of unity over division, in a forum where you contribute nothing but division. A fairy tale moniker seems appropriate.
The Go Bears Forever phrase clearly does show you are a man of high intellect. Thus, responding substantively regarding Tesla's business prospects might garner respect if you had some thoughts to share.
She's not a man unless she's recently decided to change her pronouns.
Why are you labeling Goldilocks a she?
Because she's female
wifeisafurd said:Aunburdened said:wifeisafurd said:Aunburdened said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:
>But does she identify as female?


DiabloWags said:
GREAT CALL SBGOLD!
THE STOCK HAS GONE STRAIGHT DOWN SINCE YOU STARTED THIS THREAD.
DiabloWags said:
Yes, I hear he comes back from his vacation April 5th.
Anarchistbear said:
SB Gold and HawaiiBear never post at the same time
Anarchistbear said:
I shorted Jasmine Crockett instead