TSLA a hard pass

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https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/
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SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.
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TSLA shares up 100% since Tim Walz said it's going to zero?

Was Tim Walz threatened by Elon knowing DOGE was sniffing around?
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wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.

Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that

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SBGold said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.

Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

It is hard to take serious a bombardment of smug posts which while sometimes humors, generally lack substance, and all ending with the absurd catchphrase of unity over division, in a forum where you contribute nothing but division. A fairy tale moniker seems appropriate.

The Go Bears Forever phrase clearly does show you are a man of high intellect. Thus, responding substantively regarding Tesla's business prospects might garner respect if you had some thoughts to share.
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wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.

Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

It is hard to take serious a bombardment of smug posts which while sometimes humors, generally lack substance, and all ending with the absurd catchphrase of unity over division, in a forum where you contribute nothing but division. A fairy tale moniker seems appropriate.

The Go Bears Forever phrase clearly does show you are a man of high intellect. Thus, responding substantively regarding Tesla's business prospects might garner respect if you had some thoughts to share.

She's not a man unless she's recently decided to change her pronouns.
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Aunburdened said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.

Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

It is hard to take serious a bombardment of smug posts which while sometimes humors, generally lack substance, and all ending with the absurd catchphrase of unity over division, in a forum where you contribute nothing but division. A fairy tale moniker seems appropriate.

The Go Bears Forever phrase clearly does show you are a man of high intellect. Thus, responding substantively regarding Tesla's business prospects might garner respect if you had some thoughts to share.

She's not a man unless she's recently decided to change her pronouns.

Why are you labeling Goldilocks a she? I believe you committed a microagression to make such assumptions in the absence of definitive guidance. Shame on you/zir/yours or whatever.
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wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.

I just re-read and it sure sounds like your 1200 word essay AGREES with the link I posted. Thanks!

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wifeisafurd
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SBGold said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.

I just re-read and it sure sounds like your 1200 word essay AGREES with the link I posted. Thanks!

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Go Bears Forever

Smug again. The "essay" says the market already discounted the information in the article.

The stock price seems high based on market fundamentals, but predictions Tesla stock will tank by you and other posters over the last years have been at odds with market, and run up in stock price makes the OP heading seem clueless.
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wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.

I just re-read and it sure sounds like your 1200 word essay AGREES with the link I posted. Thanks!

UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever

Smug again. The "essay" says the market already discounted the information in the article.

The stock price seems high based on market fundamentals, but predictions Tesla stock will tank by you and other posters over the last years have been at odds with market, and run up in stock price makes the OP heading seem clueless.


I guess we read other's character the same way, interesting

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wifeisafurd said:

Smug again. The "essay" says the market already discounted the information in the article.

The stock price seems high based on market fundamentals, but predictions Tesla stock will tank by you and other posters over the last years have been at odds with market, and run up in stock price makes the OP heading seem clueless.



Why does a poster stating that Tesla is a hard "pass" for him make him clueless?
Why are you so upset about someone not being interested in owning TSLA?

Sounds personal.
The "smug" comment not withstanding.





Cults don't end well. They really don't.
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wifeisafurd said:

Aunburdened said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.

Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

It is hard to take serious a bombardment of smug posts which while sometimes humors, generally lack substance, and all ending with the absurd catchphrase of unity over division, in a forum where you contribute nothing but division. A fairy tale moniker seems appropriate.

The Go Bears Forever phrase clearly does show you are a man of high intellect. Thus, responding substantively regarding Tesla's business prospects might garner respect if you had some thoughts to share.

She's not a man unless she's recently decided to change her pronouns.

Why are you labeling Goldilocks a she?

Because she's female
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DiabloWags said:

wifeisafurd said:

Smug again. The "essay" says the market already discounted the information in the article.

The stock price seems high based on market fundamentals, but predictions Tesla stock will tank by you and other posters over the last years have been at odds with market, and run up in stock price makes the OP heading seem clueless.



Why does a poster stating that Tesla is a hard "pass" for him make him clueless?
Why are you so upset about someone not being interested in owning TSLA?

Sounds personal.
The "smug" comment not withstanding.







Probably is personal because I have to claw through hundreds of this guy's often nonsense threads, that are basically he posts some article with out any thought with a snarky title, a divisive one sentence perspective and when you challenge the guy, he responds with smug stuff. I probably should just hit the ignore button, which I suspect you were about to tell me.

For example, the information doesn't sound like a hard pass, like the stock is tanking, like the guy repeatedly says, because he hates Mosk, . It does't even sound like Tesla is overvalued given the market non-reaction, which I think. The problem is you try to engage and in a substantive dialog, and because the guy doesn't know the subjective matter, you get one sentence zingers, which has become the modus operandi on the board, and when combined with other that do this, ruined the board. Say what you well about Concord Tom, you at least get intelligent discussion, even when he can be hijacking the thread. Goldilocks really is about being divisive, and getting into a back and forth on true blue vs MAGA, and not discussing the topic on which he actually posted.
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wifeisafurd said:

The problem is you try to engage and in a substantive dialog, and because the guy doesn't know the subjective matter, you get one sentence zingers, which has become the modus operandi on the board, and when combined with others that do this, ruined the board. Say what you well about Concord Tom, you at least get intelligent discussion, even when he can be hijacking the thread. Goldilocks really is about being divisive, and getting into a back and forth on true blue vs MAGA, and not discussing the topic on which he actually posted.


Well, to be quite honest, there is a "Gang of Five" on this board that does the same exact thing.

They "speak" via memes and tweets and one sentence zingers (as you say) or do nothing but answer a question by asking another question. Several of them post 30, 40, and 50+ times a day littering the board with zero organic thoughts or informed discussion. Some even pride themselves on posting "facts" no matter how misinformed they are. They clearly are not here to engage in a genuine honest discussion. This is what has led to quality posters like Unit2Sucks leaving the board.

This is why I have put one of them on ignore.
This is why I have established a self-imposed limit of 10 posts a day for 2026.

I agree, this OT forum can be far better than it is.
But the platform's owner doesn't appear to be interested in implementing changes that support honest discussion.
Until then, the quality of content in this forum will never improve.

Cults don't end well. They really don't.
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DiabloWags said:

wifeisafurd said:

The problem is you try to engage and in a substantive dialog, and because the guy doesn't know the subjective matter, you get one sentence zingers, which has become the modus operandi on the board, and when combined with others that do this, ruined the board. Say what you well about Concord Tom, you at least get intelligent discussion, even when he can be hijacking the thread. Goldilocks really is about being divisive, and getting into a back and forth on true blue vs MAGA, and not discussing the topic on which he actually posted.


Well, to be quite honest, there is a "Gang of Five" on this board that does the same exact thing.

They "speak" via memes and tweets and one sentence zingers (as you say) or do nothing but answer a question by asking another question. Several of them post 30, 40, and 50+ times a day littering the board with zero organic thoughts or informed discussion. Some even pride themselves on posting "facts" no matter how misinformed they are. They clearly are not here to engage in a genuine honest discussion. This is what has led to quality posters like Unit2Sucks leaving the board.

This is why I have put one of them on ignore.
This is why I have established a self-imposed limit of 10 posts a day for 2026.

I agree, this OT forum can be far better than it is.
But the platform's owner doesn't appear to be interested in implementing changes that support honest discussion.
Until then, the quality of content in this forum will never improve.



You nailed it. Thank you.
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Seriously, fine to judge me however you want. You not calling out wing nuts that do the same here at higher numbers (I never come close to posting 15 times a day much less some of the 50 spots seen here) is preposterous and a joke. It's why I don't take you seriously (along with those serial posters).

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sighned, not dead yet # funk trunk; i.c.e. too
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To be fair, you very often answer questions with questions. As do others here.
BearlySane88
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Never come close to 15 posts? Maybe look at your post count from yesterday, for example.

I have zero problem with you posting 15 times a day but at least be honest
BearlySane88
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Gender is a construct created by society. Am I doing this right?
wifeisafurd
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Aunburdened said:

wifeisafurd said:

Aunburdened said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/01/06/tesla-just-delivered-very-bad-news-for-investors/

Another one of Goldilock's usual tales.

Since liberals started boycotting Tesla cars, the stock went down and ultimately has gone up above prior valuations. The bearish divergence occurred as the price made a higher high from December 2024 to December 2025. The delivery decline news reported was expected, and already had been built into the stock price. Not that Goldilcoks understands any of that.

For anyone following market fundamentals (which would not be Goldilocks), Tesla stock has been overvalued for a long time. Inattentive CEO, bad fundamentals, losing market share internationally to the Chinese, losing tax credits in the US, where Tesla has essentially a monopoly as Chinese products are effectively prohibited, etc.. Domestically, all EV cars (BEVs) face head winds due to lessening demand and loss of credits (only 15 states offer some form of credit on state taxes). In Europe, the focus still remains on plug-in PHEVs and hybrids which went up dramatically, and outside those markets the Chinse all electrics BEVs dominate, through Chines makers are moving away from those. Despite the commentary by many posters on this site, all electric EV (BEVs) cars are not at all dominating the car markets. The pace is the top buyer markets, the US and Europe, for BEVs stalled. Indeed BYD, the major player in all EVs, is moving more and more towards combined power PHEVs, a move Tesla is not following so far. The market appears to moving away from BEVs, and China seems willing to let Tesla dominate that declining market segment.

It is difficult to try to defend a stock with a triple-digit forward P/E ratio. The next earnings report is due late January, and given lower deliveries in Q4 mentioned in the article, that ratio could get worse. Sure, the company is a well-established BEV brand with a multiple-year track record of strong sales growth, and it has higher margins than its competitors. And yes, that probably is built into the stock price. It is pretty clear in the US Tesla will be the technology used to fill-up on the road, as evidenced by the German car makers adapting ports in new cars for Tesla chargers. And Tesla seems to be ahead in the driverless cars side, but is that really the future? Nevertheless, the current valuation seems too extreme at this point and is not sustainable. Famous last words, as I said that a while back, and the stock price went-up.

Goldilocks, really? I thought you were better than that

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

It is hard to take serious a bombardment of smug posts which while sometimes humors, generally lack substance, and all ending with the absurd catchphrase of unity over division, in a forum where you contribute nothing but division. A fairy tale moniker seems appropriate.

The Go Bears Forever phrase clearly does show you are a man of high intellect. Thus, responding substantively regarding Tesla's business prospects might garner respect if you had some thoughts to share.

She's not a man unless she's recently decided to change her pronouns.

Why are you labeling Goldilocks a she?

Because she's female

But does she identify as female?
concordtom
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China has banned electronic/hidden door handles. Must be mechanical.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/china-ban-hidden-car-door-063413837.html



In other related news, SpaceX merges with xAI and will sell $50B of stock in a multi trillion valuation. You can search your own news on that story.
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wifeisafurd said:

Aunburdened said:

wifeisafurd said:

Aunburdened said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

wifeisafurd said:

>But does she identify as female?













^ doesn't seem to be any of our bidness # rude much

DiabloWags
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TSLA still correcting from $500 last December and testing the 200 day MA.

Will it hold?

Or need to retest the lows $10 lower at $382?

Note the "gap" down at $339.

SBGold
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Where's wiaf yet?

Wrong again lol!

UNITY OVER DIVISION
DiabloWags
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Looks like another excellent call . . . looking for support at $382 to get tested.
Came right into support.

As posted from last Friday.

Today's low: $38140





DiabloWags
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GREAT CALL SBGOLD!

THE STOCK HAS GONE STRAIGHT DOWN SINCE YOU STARTED THIS THREAD.

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DiabloWags said:

GREAT CALL SBGOLD!
THE STOCK HAS GONE STRAIGHT DOWN SINCE YOU STARTED THIS THREAD.

just in case folks haven't noticed SBG is serving a very long forced time out, w/o any obvious return date..
https://bearinsider.com/account/profile/6678
# advice from the heavens: life is haard, then we die
sighned, not dead yet # funk trunk; i.c.e. too
DiabloWags
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Yes, I hear he comes back from his vacation April 5th.
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

Yes, I hear he comes back from his vacation April 5th.



It will certainly be a resurrection.
DiabloWags
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Most likely heading down to at least $340 to close the gap.

This stock chart has really broken down.
Trading below all three MA's

Anarchistbear
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SB Gold and HawaiiBear never post at the same time
DiabloWags
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Anarchistbear said:

SB Gold and HawaiiBear never post at the same time


TSLA opened at $446 when SB Gold started this thread.
TSLA is down $75 since.

Too bad you didn't short it.

Anarchistbear
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I shorted Jasmine Crockett instead
DiabloWags
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Anarchistbear said:

I shorted Jasmine Crockett instead

I always said she was INSANE.

Colbert canceled - Page 4 | Bear Insider

I bet you retired on that trade.
Let me know who you short next!




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