Big C said:
BearlySane88 said:
Big C said:
BearlySane88 said:
SBGold said:
Crime rates are way down throughout the state. Education is supported here.
We actually have clean water, some of these 3rd world red states have unsafe standards and no water/plumbing at all. No thanks
UMITY OVER DIVISION
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Education is in an absolute **** hole in California. Yeah now I know you have no idea what you're talking about and you just have your knee pads on for Gavin
I beg to differ. Having taught at three public high schools for almost twenty years (all in the Bay Area with diverse student populations), I would say the education provided ranged from "pretty good", to "very good". My two kids are in the 8th and 11th grade at a public school and I would say their education has been good-to-very-good.
No doubt there are poor-to-mediocre things going on somewhere in California education, but it has not been my experience.
48.8% of students in California meet the state standard in ELA.
37.3% of students in California meet the state standard in Math.
Is that your standard of "pretty good" to "very good"?
To be clear, this isn't an admonishment of teachers. As a teacher myself, we do the best we can with the resources we have but the system is broken in so many ways.
Just looking at those two statistics, without further study, I would have to say, no, that is not good, obviously.
But I was basing my evaluation instead on my own anecdotal evidence, amassed over time and at several different school sites in three different school districts. I trust my judgement of what I saw, especially based over decades, in different locations.
If you had the power, what would you do to improve public education in California?
Educationdata.org says, " California K-12 schools spend $18,020 per pupil..."
Unreal. I thought the $22k I was quoting was outdated and far too low. Oops, it was too optimistic!
EDIT: After a bit more Googling, I've come up with $21k and $22k, so perhaps we are closer to this amount.
How about spending the median tuition for private schools then? Let's call it $40k per kid. Let's try THAT for a start.
If anything, spending more, perhaps FAR MORE on kids in public schools would be one way to offset the inequality in education and exposure to learning. Knowing the hurdles in the way of a child coming from a background of little to no higher education, limited economic means, and all the other shortfalls of "growing up poor," you'd think if you REALLY wanted to produce the best students overall, you'd give the kids of average and below-average backgrounds MORE resources than what the top 20% percentile receives throughout childhood.
I don't know, just a thought.
Imagine if in 20 years, California boasted, "We spent $10k MORE per pupil than our top private schools, ensuring ALL California students get a top-notch education from day one." And the results have been fantastic.
Delusional, I know.
PS "Throwing more money at schools won't fix the problem!" is hilarious when our best private Bay Area schools are $65k per year. So you can just not waste your time with this canard.