sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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I am okay with Voter ID laws if the laws also make it easy for anyone to get a valid ID for free.

SAVE act does not do that. If anything, makes it harder. No thanks.

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If the Save Act passes my mother will probably no longer be able to vote. She has no passport and no Real ID (no drivers license at all). Her CA state ID would not qualify her. Her birth certificate no longer matches her last name since she was married 58 years ago. Who knows where her marriage certificate is since she was divorced 48 years ago. At over 80 years old she is not going to jump through the hoops of this big government activity.

This kind of voter suppression is the goal of the Save Act.

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Democrats embarrassing themselves on TV pretending they can't find their birth certificates.

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I went to get a new passport last year. I had a copy of my birth certificate at home, but it wasn't the right notarized copy from the county clerk's office, which means that after first applying for my passport with what I thought were the right documents, I had to make an appointment and go to the clerk's office and get a new version of my birth certificate. I was born in San Francisco and still live in the Bay Area so this was not too onerous for me, but imagine if I didn't? Every one of these steps (the new birth certificate, providing a photo in the right size, the new passport) cost money and time (me making an appointment and taking time out of my work day, because these offices are not open on weekends or holidays).

So it's not that I "couldn't find" the things I needed for my passport (a.k.a. the kind of document that would satisfy the SAVE Act's requirements). I was obviously able to get it. But this was not an easy or quick process, and it was definitely not free. That was for me getting an elective thing that I don't absolutely have to have, so whatever, it was my choice to jump through the hoops. Voting isn't supposed to require a lot of hoop-jumping, though.

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I just renewed my passport, my wife's passport, and got passports for my kids. Easy Peasy.

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Did you pay anything?

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Yes, I had to pay for the passports.

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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I am okay with Voter ID laws if the laws also make it easy for anyone to get a valid ID for free.

SAVE act does not do that. If anything, makes it harder. No thanks.

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If the Save Act passes my mother will probably no longer be able to vote. She has no passport and no Real ID (no drivers license at all). Her CA state ID would not qualify her. Her birth certificate no longer matches her last name since she was married 58 years ago. Who knows where her marriage certificate is since she was divorced 48 years ago. At over 80 years old she is not going to jump through the hoops of this big government activity.

This kind of voter suppression is the goal of the Save Act.

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Democrats embarrassing themselves on TV pretending they can't find their birth certificates.

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I went to get a new passport last year. I had a copy of my birth certificate at home, but it wasn't the right notarized copy from the county clerk's office, which means that after first applying for my passport with what I thought were the right documents, I had to make an appointment and go to the clerk's office and get a new version of my birth certificate. I was born in San Francisco and still live in the Bay Area so this was not too onerous for me, but imagine if I didn't? Every one of these steps (the new birth certificate, providing a photo in the right size, the new passport) cost money and time (me making an appointment and taking time out of my work day, because these offices are not open on weekends or holidays).

So it's not that I "couldn't find" the things I needed for my passport (a.k.a. the kind of document that would satisfy the SAVE Act's requirements). I was obviously able to get it. But this was not an easy or quick process, and it was definitely not free. That was for me getting an elective thing that I don't absolutely have to have, so whatever, it was my choice to jump through the hoops. Voting isn't supposed to require a lot of hoop-jumping, though.

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I just renewed my passport, my wife's passport, and got passports for my kids. Easy Peasy.

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Did you pay anything?

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Yes, I had to pay for the passports.

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Right, and if you need a new certified birth certificate copy you'll have to pay for that too.

Kind of looks like the new SAVE Act makes it so you have to pay to register to vote.

sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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I am okay with Voter ID laws if the laws also make it easy for anyone to get a valid ID for free.

SAVE act does not do that. If anything, makes it harder. No thanks.

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If the Save Act passes my mother will probably no longer be able to vote. She has no passport and no Real ID (no drivers license at all). Her CA state ID would not qualify her. Her birth certificate no longer matches her last name since she was married 58 years ago. Who knows where her marriage certificate is since she was divorced 48 years ago. At over 80 years old she is not going to jump through the hoops of this big government activity.

This kind of voter suppression is the goal of the Save Act.

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Democrats embarrassing themselves on TV pretending they can't find their birth certificates.

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I went to get a new passport last year. I had a copy of my birth certificate at home, but it wasn't the right notarized copy from the county clerk's office, which means that after first applying for my passport with what I thought were the right documents, I had to make an appointment and go to the clerk's office and get a new version of my birth certificate. I was born in San Francisco and still live in the Bay Area so this was not too onerous for me, but imagine if I didn't? Every one of these steps (the new birth certificate, providing a photo in the right size, the new passport) cost money and time (me making an appointment and taking time out of my work day, because these offices are not open on weekends or holidays).

So it's not that I "couldn't find" the things I needed for my passport (a.k.a. the kind of document that would satisfy the SAVE Act's requirements). I was obviously able to get it. But this was not an easy or quick process, and it was definitely not free. That was for me getting an elective thing that I don't absolutely have to have, so whatever, it was my choice to jump through the hoops. Voting isn't supposed to require a lot of hoop-jumping, though.

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I just renewed my passport, my wife's passport, and got passports for my kids. Easy Peasy.

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Did you pay anything?

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Yes, I had to pay for the passports.

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Right, and if you need a new certified birth certificate copy you'll have to pay for that too.

Kind of looks like the new SAVE Act makes it so you have to pay to register to vote.

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I didn't need any new certified birth certificates. No $ there.

And...

Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

You aren't planning on traveling aboard to vote, are you?

oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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Looks like this only applies if you're homeless or a runaway.

Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

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Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

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Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

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The liberals in California made their bed by giving IDs to illegal immigrants. Even so, those homeless or in transitional housing (the poor) can get a certified birth certificate for free. Those not homeless should already have their birth certificate. If they don't, they can pay $40. Of course, California is always welcome to expand their fee waivers to folks who aren't poor.

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

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Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

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The liberals in California made their bed by giving IDs to illegal immigrants. Even so, those homeless or in transitional housing (the poor) can get a certified birth certificate for free. Those not homeless should already have their birth certificate. If they don't, they can pay $40. Of course, California is always welcome to expand their fee waivers to folks who aren't poor.

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Thank you for finally admitting the truth of the matter. The SAVE Act will make people pay to vote.

As I noted, though, it's not just in California. Some red states will have this problem too. That's because REAL IDs aren't just given to citizens, they are also given to legal residents (which seems appropriate to me). Seems like Republicans in Congress haven't actually thought very hard about what they're doing and have just been trying to push a thing forward to make Trump happy.

Joe knows he’s lying. Mika knows he’s lying. Everyone on the set knows he’s lying. And yet he lies.

Just an amazing clip. https://t.co/aUOysfPRIl

— Gerry Callahan (@GerryCallahan) March 24, 2026

Aunburdened said:

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Joe knows he’s lying. Mika knows he’s lying. Everyone on the set knows he’s lying. And yet he lies.

Just an amazing clip. https://t.co/aUOysfPRIl

— Gerry Callahan (@GerryCallahan) March 24, 2026

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Does Joe post on this forum?

Aunburdened said:

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Joe knows he’s lying. Mika knows he’s lying. Everyone on the set knows he’s lying. And yet he lies.

Just an amazing clip. https://t.co/aUOysfPRIl

— Gerry Callahan (@GerryCallahan) March 24, 2026

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She wouldn't get kicked off the voter rolls, but if she moved to another state and tried to register there she would need to get her birth certificate or passport or some other proof of citizenship that you have to pay for. Otherwise no registration.

oski003 said:

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Aunburdened said:

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Joe knows he’s lying. Mika knows he’s lying. Everyone on the set knows he’s lying. And yet he lies.

Just an amazing clip. https://t.co/aUOysfPRIl

— Gerry Callahan (@GerryCallahan) March 24, 2026

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Does Joe post on this forum?

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Joe finds the login process too confusing

sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

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Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

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I think that in the past week you have certainly demonstrated that there are posters here that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the SAVE Act.

It's comical to see someone here claim that REAL ID can be used as proof of citizenship for Voter registration.

SAVE Act Does Not Permit Use of Standard REAL ID as Proof of Citi

Thank you again Sycasey for your "real world" experience.

[url=https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/save-act-does-not-permit-use-standard-real-id-proof-citizenship-voter][/url]

DiabloWags said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

---

Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

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I think that in the past week you have certainly demonstrated that there are posters here that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the SAVE Act.

It's comical to see someone here claim that REAL ID can be used as proof of citizenship for Voter registration.

SAVE Act Does Not Permit Use of Standard REAL ID as Proof of Citi

Thank you again Sycasey for your "real world" experience.

[url=https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/save-act-does-not-permit-use-standard-real-id-proof-citizenship-voter][/url]

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Pedantic post born from ignorance.

oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

---

Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

---

I think that in the past week you have certainly demonstrated that there are posters here that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the SAVE Act.

It's comical to see someone here claim that REAL ID can be used as proof of citizenship for Voter registration.

SAVE Act Does Not Permit Use of Standard REAL ID as Proof of Citi

Thank you again Sycasey for your "real world" experience.

[url=https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/save-act-does-not-permit-use-standard-real-id-proof-citizenship-voter][/url]

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Pedantic post born from ignorance.

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I mean, you're the guy who thought REAL IDs would be fine. They aren't, because in the vast majority of states they don't prove citizenship. And not just because of illegal immigrants either. Legal immigrants can get state REAL IDs for entirely legitimate purposes, which means you would need to pay for something else to prove citizenship.

sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

---

Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

---

I think that in the past week you have certainly demonstrated that there are posters here that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the SAVE Act.

It's comical to see someone here claim that REAL ID can be used as proof of citizenship for Voter registration.

SAVE Act Does Not Permit Use of Standard REAL ID as Proof of Citi

Thank you again Sycasey for your "real world" experience.

[url=https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/save-act-does-not-permit-use-standard-real-id-proof-citizenship-voter][/url]

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Pedantic post born from ignorance.

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I mean, you're the guy who thought REAL IDs would be fine. They aren't, because in the vast majority of states they don't prove citizenship. And not just because of illegal immigrants either. Legal immigrants can get state REAL IDs for entirely legitimate purposes, which means you would need to pay for something else to prove citizenship.

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Ideally, we now understand that the SAVE Act won't allow REAL IDs because California gives them to illegal immigrants; therefore, actual proof of citizenship is required. We also now understand that the poor can get a certified birth certificate for free. We also understand that the not poor who have lost their birth certificate only have to pay $40 to get it. This isn't rocket science. Liberals, believe it or not, are capable of doing things. Hopefully, those who want to vote can get this cleared up by 2028.

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

---

Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

---

I think that in the past week you have certainly demonstrated that there are posters here that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the SAVE Act.

It's comical to see someone here claim that REAL ID can be used as proof of citizenship for Voter registration.

SAVE Act Does Not Permit Use of Standard REAL ID as Proof of Citi

Thank you again Sycasey for your "real world" experience.

[url=https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/save-act-does-not-permit-use-standard-real-id-proof-citizenship-voter][/url]

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Pedantic post born from ignorance.

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I mean, you're the guy who thought REAL IDs would be fine. They aren't, because in the vast majority of states they don't prove citizenship. And not just because of illegal immigrants either. Legal immigrants can get state REAL IDs for entirely legitimate purposes, which means you would need to pay for something else to prove citizenship.

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Ideally, we now understand that the SAVE Act won't allow REAL IDs because California gives them to illegal immigrants; therefore, actual proof of citizenship is required. We also now understand that the poor can get a certified birth certificate for free. We also understand that the not poor who have lost their birth certificate only have to pay $40 to get it. This isn't rocket science. Liberals, believe it or not, are capable of doing things. Hopefully, those who want to vote can get this cleared up by 2028.

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Your support of our new proposed poll tax is noted. However, some further clarifications of fact:

1. It's not just because REAL IDs could go to illegal immigrants in California that there is an issue with the SAVE Act. It's because they also go to legal immigrants without citizenship, including in red states.

2. It's not "the poor" who can get free birth certificates. It's the homeless. The working poor would still be under a monetary burden to obtain proof of citizenship.

sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

---

Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

---

I think that in the past week you have certainly demonstrated that there are posters here that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the SAVE Act.

It's comical to see someone here claim that REAL ID can be used as proof of citizenship for Voter registration.

SAVE Act Does Not Permit Use of Standard REAL ID as Proof of Citi

Thank you again Sycasey for your "real world" experience.

[url=https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/save-act-does-not-permit-use-standard-real-id-proof-citizenship-voter][/url]

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Pedantic post born from ignorance.

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I mean, you're the guy who thought REAL IDs would be fine. They aren't, because in the vast majority of states they don't prove citizenship. And not just because of illegal immigrants either. Legal immigrants can get state REAL IDs for entirely legitimate purposes, which means you would need to pay for something else to prove citizenship.

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Of course, this is a completely surmountable obstacle given that in order to get a REAL ID in the first place, you have to submit documentation that differentiates between the actual citizens vs. non-citizens. Just check the list of documents.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-licenses-identification-cards/real-id/real-id-checklist/

The legislation needs some fixing, as it is not well thought out (and probably because it's just talking point legislation and not something they're actually going to spend political capital to try to pass). But the Democrat excuses are just laughably bad and make them look like idiots who can't manage their own lives.

sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

---

Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

---

I think that in the past week you have certainly demonstrated that there are posters here that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the SAVE Act.

It's comical to see someone here claim that REAL ID can be used as proof of citizenship for Voter registration.

SAVE Act Does Not Permit Use of Standard REAL ID as Proof of Citi

Thank you again Sycasey for your "real world" experience.

[url=https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/save-act-does-not-permit-use-standard-real-id-proof-citizenship-voter][/url]

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Pedantic post born from ignorance.

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I mean, you're the guy who thought REAL IDs would be fine. They aren't, because in the vast majority of states they don't prove citizenship. And not just because of illegal immigrants either. Legal immigrants can get state REAL IDs for entirely legitimate purposes, which means you would need to pay for something else to prove citizenship.

---

Ideally, we now understand that the SAVE Act won't allow REAL IDs because California gives them to illegal immigrants; therefore, actual proof of citizenship is required. We also now understand that the poor can get a certified birth certificate for free. We also understand that the not poor who have lost their birth certificate only have to pay $40 to get it. This isn't rocket science. Liberals, believe it or not, are capable of doing things. Hopefully, those who want to vote can get this cleared up by 2028.

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Your support of our new proposed poll tax is noted. However, some further clarifications of fact:

1. It's not just because REAL IDs could go to illegal immigrants in California that there is an issue with the SAVE Act. It's because they also go to legal immigrants without citizenship, including in red states.

2. It's not "the poor" who can get free birth certificates. It's the homeless. The working poor would still be under a monetary burden to obtain proof of citizenship.

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Bingo.

Aunburdened said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

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Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

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I think that in the past week you have certainly demonstrated that there are posters here that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the SAVE Act.

It's comical to see someone here claim that REAL ID can be used as proof of citizenship for Voter registration.

SAVE Act Does Not Permit Use of Standard REAL ID as Proof of Citi

Thank you again Sycasey for your "real world" experience.

[url=https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/save-act-does-not-permit-use-standard-real-id-proof-citizenship-voter][/url]

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Pedantic post born from ignorance.

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I mean, you're the guy who thought REAL IDs would be fine. They aren't, because in the vast majority of states they don't prove citizenship. And not just because of illegal immigrants either. Legal immigrants can get state REAL IDs for entirely legitimate purposes, which means you would need to pay for something else to prove citizenship.

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Of course, this is a completely surmountable obstacle given that in order to get a REAL ID in the first place, you have to submit documentation that differentiates between the actual citizens vs. non-citizens. Just check the list of documents.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-licenses-identification-cards/real-id/real-id-checklist/

The legislation needs some fixing, as it is not well thought out (and probably because it's just talking point legislation and not something they're actually going to spend political capital to try to pass). But the Democrat excuses are just laughably bad and make them look like idiots who can't manage their own lives.

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Bingo.

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Fortunately, CA waives fees for REAL ID, which is accepted under the SAVE Act.

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No it isn't.

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Good news, you can get a birth certificate for free! Please see link below. Even liberals are smart enough to get this done by 2028.

https://schoolhouseconnection.org/article/how-to-obtain-a-free-birth-certificate-or-id-in-california-instructions-and-the-law

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I dunno, they seem to find certain aspects of life too complicated to deal with

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Or maybe I have actually looked into this potential law and found that under it, in the vast majority of states there will not be a way to register without paying for some document (unless you already have it). Poll tax.

You guys don't seem to know what's actually in the SAVE Act.

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I think that in the past week you have certainly demonstrated that there are posters here that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the SAVE Act.

It's comical to see someone here claim that REAL ID can be used as proof of citizenship for Voter registration.

SAVE Act Does Not Permit Use of Standard REAL ID as Proof of Citi

Thank you again Sycasey for your "real world" experience.

[url=https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/save-act-does-not-permit-use-standard-real-id-proof-citizenship-voter][/url]

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Pedantic post born from ignorance.

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I mean, you're the guy who thought REAL IDs would be fine. They aren't, because in the vast majority of states they don't prove citizenship. And not just because of illegal immigrants either. Legal immigrants can get state REAL IDs for entirely legitimate purposes, which means you would need to pay for something else to prove citizenship.

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Of course, this is a completely surmountable obstacle given that in order to get a REAL ID in the first place, you have to submit documentation that differentiates between the actual citizens vs. non-citizens. Just check the list of documents.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-licenses-identification-cards/real-id/real-id-checklist/

The legislation needs some fixing, as it is not well thought out (and probably because it's just talking point legislation and not something they're actually going to spend political capital to try to pass). But the Democrat excuses are just laughably bad and make them look like idiots who can't manage their own lives.

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Yes, politicians are exaggerating and grandstanding about a bill they oppose. Big news!

Likewise the Republicans are blatantly grandstanding in acting like this is so badly necessary for election security. No it isn't.

Meanwhile, the Orange Hypocrite just voted by MAIL in a Florida special election.

Lmao.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-casts-mail-ballot-florida-calls-method-cheating-rcna264762

What Trump is focused on speaks volumes. The tweet below leaves out the GOP's forever war in the Middle East, of course.

Trump’s entire platform right now is voter suppression:

- Passing The Save Act
- Revoking birthright citizenship
- Revoking mail in ballots

The Republicans have to cheat to win.

— The Green Dragon Tavern (@greendragonhq) April 1, 2026