BearlyCareAnymore said:
JimSox said:
calumnus said:
baytobreakers said:
Email the chancellor to keep him
Madsen is already on contract until 2030. That is enough. It is just a random article speculating. Let's not repeat the mistake repeatedly made with Wilcox.
With all due respect, I don't think Madsen is the same as Wilcox. And I don't think we're talking about an extension, but solving other problems to keep him. Chief among them, the $$$$ he needs for NIL to compete in the ACC.
In Wilcox's first three years he stabilized the program, improved every year, got to post season year 2 and won his first (destined to be only) bowl game, going 8-5, and most people wanted him extended. How are those record's not similar?
As calumnus says, the UNIVERSITY can't increase NIL without taking it from football. The DONORS can. If they are worried they can go to Madsen and give him more NIL money.
Frankly, I am with HK. If he can get a better situation, good for him. People here seem to be living in 1980 where incremental improvement meant something. If it was going to happen with Madsen in the current situation, it would have happened. I'm not looking to fire him. I'm fine with him. Operative word being "fine". I don't see how we are making great strides without either getting a lot more NIL money or getting a coach who can somehow make due with a lot less. Neither seems likely right now. Cal should definitely be going out to donors to get more NIL money, but they should be doing that already. (which I've argued for). Nothing has indicated Madsen is irreplaceable. We've got to stop being scarred by Jones and Fox, two objectively bad hires by two objectively bad AD's that were obviously atrocious hires the day they were made.
Madsen has a good contract that is the deal
The direct revenue NIL $ as specified in the House settlement has been allocated for the benefit of football. Football has to be good enough to stay in the P4 if/when another realignment occurs. So that sport which is much more expensive to operate is getting the bulk of the $20.5M designated by the House settlement.
Cal has found some workarounds for football outside NIL. And have been able to become very competitive in that space. Cal provided real support for football. Rivera as GM. A great budget for staff that Tosh has been able to add the numbers to support the product. And look at what is happening for that sport.
Cal IMO would be foolish to take away from football NIL at this time, and my understanding is they did allocate an additional $1M for mens hoops at the start of the year. The missing piece seems to be University support generally. The unsupportive situation regarding the Co-ADs. And not just unsupportive but actually interfering with and hindering progress. The lack of a GM for hoops which is a vital role and one that is in place at every school that takes hoops seriously at all. No doubt the top programs in the ACC have this role.
NIL$ have been slow to come via the donors. Not sure exactly why. Likely a number of reasons. The lack of trust in the ADs may be one. A philosophical debate regarding paying for players. The possibility that key donors were not on board with the hire to start with.
I agree Cal has to move past the bad hires made previouisly by poor ADs. The big concern today though is that situation remains. The 2 Co-ADs seem cut from the same cloth as Knowlton. So it is very understandable that fans would be worried about the future given who likely would oversee the next hire.
If Cal had a new permanent AD in place and a basketball GM I think moving on from Madsen would be less concerning. That is not the situation though. And that it is not may very well be the single biggest reason Mark is entertaining moving on.
This situation has to be a catalyst for change. It may be to far along to save Madsen from moving on but it has to be resolved. The Co-AD situation must end. Not just for hoops. But for everything else as well. They are serious impediments to progress.
