HoopDreams said:

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I think you guys got it wrong

UNC was without their best player (who played in the game where we beat them)

Wright State gave Virginia a scare, but we beat Wright State by 10

VCU, Santa Clara, Miami (Ohio), Alabama, Texas were all bubble teams and just squeaked in.

We were right there and could advanced in the NCAA just like any of these teams.

Also shows that there are teams who didn't get selected that could have made some noise in the tournament

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VCU actually won the A-10. If they had not they may have squeaked in as an at large. Alabama is a 4 seed so I would not put categorize their selection as squeaking in. Texas? Yes. They had 14 losses.

SMU is the team I would say benefitted the most on Selection Sunday. They were fading down the stretch and apparently advised the committee that injured guard BJ Edwards would play. He did not. NC State also faded late and could easily have been replaced by a number of teams.

The last 4 teams in and the next 8 out are all pretty similar with not a lot to distinguish one from another. Any of them could have been in and done as well of better than the teams that were selected. The NET ranking seemed to play an oversized role in the selections. It is easy to lean on the NET to avoid controversy. This year there was very little real controversy. But I am less certain they got the best 37 at large teams right at the end.

How you are playing needs to matter a bit more than it did IMO. SMU and NC State limped in and then lost the play in games. But the major competitors for the final slots did not finish well either.

lol how come?

6956bear said:

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HoopDreams said:

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I think you guys got it wrong

UNC was without their best player (who played in the game where we beat them)

Wright State gave Virginia a scare, but we beat Wright State by 10

VCU, Santa Clara, Miami (Ohio), Alabama, Texas were all bubble teams and just squeaked in.

We were right there and could advanced in the NCAA just like any of these teams.

Also shows that there are teams who didn't get selected that could have made some noise in the tournament

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VCU actually won the A-10. If they had not they may have squeaked in as an at large. Alabama is a 4 seed so I would not put categorize their selection as squeaking in. Texas? Yes. They had 14 losses.

SMU is the team I would say benefitted the most on Selection Sunday. They were fading down the stretch and apparently advised the committee that injured guard BJ Edwards would play. He did not. NC State also faded late and could easily have been replaced by a number of teams.

The last 4 teams in and the next 8 out are all pretty similar with not a lot to distinguish one from another. Any of them could have been in and done as well of better than the teams that were selected. The NET ranking seemed to play an oversized role in the selections. It is easy to lean on the NET to avoid controversy. This year there was very little real controversy. But I am less certain they got the best 37 at large teams right at the end.

How you are playing needs to matter a bit more than it did IMO. SMU and NC State limped in and then lost the play in games. But the major competitors for the final slots did not finish well either.

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That's the thing, if SMU and NCST limped in, how did Cal do? They got in on having a stronger prior resume. If we'd finished strong we certainly could have jumped them but we didn't.

6956bear said:

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HoopDreams said:

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I think you guys got it wrong

UNC was without their best player (who played in the game where we beat them)

Wright State gave Virginia a scare, but we beat Wright State by 10

VCU, Santa Clara, Miami (Ohio), Alabama, Texas were all bubble teams and just squeaked in.

We were right there and could advanced in the NCAA just like any of these teams.

Also shows that there are teams who didn't get selected that could have made some noise in the tournament

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VCU actually won the A-10. If they had not they may have squeaked in as an at large. Alabama is a 4 seed so I would not put categorize their selection as squeaking in. Texas? Yes. They had 14 losses.

SMU is the team I would say benefitted the most on Selection Sunday. They were fading down the stretch and apparently advised the committee that injured guard BJ Edwards would play. He did not. NC State also faded late and could easily have been replaced by a number of teams.

The last 4 teams in and the next 8 out are all pretty similar with not a lot to distinguish one from another. Any of them could have been in and done as well of better than the teams that were selected. The NET ranking seemed to play an oversized role in the selections. It is easy to lean on the NET to avoid controversy. This year there was very little real controversy. But I am less certain they got the best 37 at large teams right at the end.

How you are playing needs to matter a bit more than it did IMO. SMU and NC State limped in and then lost the play in games. But the major competitors for the final slots did not finish well either.

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Technically the committee said that VCU wouldn't have been in if they hadn't won the A-10.

Yeah SMU lied not a big shock given what the committee did and said about WVU last year. Kind of ridiculous that the NCAA didn't investigate a little further.

This all I've been trying to say, is that you can at least make an argument for any of those teams because each team's resume and wins are different and more than just quadrants. I don't think they got the best at large teams, but I think they did a decent job getting the most deserving.

It is a bit crazy to me that the MWC was a one bid league this year because they have some pretty solid teams. Like I think that the MWC definetly is a more whole conference than the WCC. I think the main mistake is SMU, I don't think with the injury they are one of the top 37. But IDK who knows

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6956bear said:

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HoopDreams said:

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I think you guys got it wrong

UNC was without their best player (who played in the game where we beat them)

Wright State gave Virginia a scare, but we beat Wright State by 10

VCU, Santa Clara, Miami (Ohio), Alabama, Texas were all bubble teams and just squeaked in.

We were right there and could advanced in the NCAA just like any of these teams.

Also shows that there are teams who didn't get selected that could have made some noise in the tournament

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VCU actually won the A-10. If they had not they may have squeaked in as an at large. Alabama is a 4 seed so I would not put categorize their selection as squeaking in. Texas? Yes. They had 14 losses.

SMU is the team I would say benefitted the most on Selection Sunday. They were fading down the stretch and apparently advised the committee that injured guard BJ Edwards would play. He did not. NC State also faded late and could easily have been replaced by a number of teams.

The last 4 teams in and the next 8 out are all pretty similar with not a lot to distinguish one from another. Any of them could have been in and done as well of better than the teams that were selected. The NET ranking seemed to play an oversized role in the selections. It is easy to lean on the NET to avoid controversy. This year there was very little real controversy. But I am less certain they got the best 37 at large teams right at the end.

How you are playing needs to matter a bit more than it did IMO. SMU and NC State limped in and then lost the play in games. But the major competitors for the final slots did not finish well either.

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That's the thing, if SMU and NCST limped in, how did Cal do? They got in on having a stronger prior resume. If we'd finished strong we certainly could have jumped them but we didn't.

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But as 69 says, the Committee really leans on NET to avoid controversy and did not give a lot of weight to how teams finished. If we won a couple more at the end it would put us in the mix, but not necessarily in the Dance because we would still be a relatively poor NET. We needed to be better than the rest given our NET. As I was saying all along, I think we needed to have 23 wins (which the Committee sees as 22 because they don't count Dominican).

Thanks for correcting my inclusion of Alabama as being on the bubble. My only 2 points were:

1. We had a good season and was right there at the edge, even with injuries to 3 of our front court players. We didn't get in but some posters here are saying our team is trash and we have no shot with our talent

2. That even bubble teams can be good and have a legit chance to advance. The tournament can add 8 teams and many of those teams would be legit also

Watched a video of a tour of their insane basketball arena. High Point certainly understands that sports can be a huge selling points to draw students and connect with alumni/donors

I'm not advocating Cal build a palace, but I'll post some pics of low hanging fruit/ inexpensive improvements to Haas in a separate thread

socaltownie said:

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A quick post - High Point is a really interesting story. Very little institutional aid. A huge focus on the kids of the 1% that want a lux experience. Their current president lead this transformation as a response to the challenges smallish liberal arts colleges find themselves in. It SEEMS to be filling a market niche. Not sure about how much in loans kids are taking out cause Cash flowing 85K+ is not for the faint of heart.

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Clemson going down too. Yikes!

sycasey said:

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Clemson going down too. Yikes!

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It's official - the ACC is hot garbage. SEC looking like the strongest conference so far.

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Strykur said:

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Santa Clara had a good year and nearly pulled it off today versus Kentucky but Saint Mary's getting rolled in March every year is more annoying than amusing at this point

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Santa Clara lowkey got screwed at the end of that game since they didn't get their timeout granted and the clock operator was a little slow starting the clock, still what a crazy sequence. But seems like the coach just couldn't get the attention of the refs.

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How convenient.

Figures.

For all the praise D Gates gets here, Mizzou's half court offense performance against Miami tonight is one of the worst I've ever seen

Jeff82 said:

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Maybe, but whatever Gates is doing is far superior to what Cuonzo Martin accomplished with a similar roster. Gates has been successful every place he's gone.

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thanks. turns out i forget stuff, a lot, most pleased to look up fellow bears doing grreat..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Gates

Jeff82 said:

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Maybe, but whatever Gates is doing is far superior to what Cuonzo Martin accomplished with a similar roster. Gates has been successful every place he's gone.

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When Martin left Cal, he hired Michael Porter Sr. as an assistant coach at Missouri to get Michael Porter Jr. as a player. Didn't work out as planned because Porter Jr. missed almost the entire season with a bad back that required surgery and then entered the NBA draft.

HoopDreams said:

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Watched a video of a tour of their insane basketball arena. High Point certainly understands that sports can be a huge selling points to draw students and connect with alumni/donors

I'm not advocating Cal build a palace, but I'll post some pics of low hanging fruit/ inexpensive improvements to Haas in a separate thread

socaltownie said:

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A quick post - High Point is a really interesting story. Very little institutional aid. A huge focus on the kids of the 1% that want a lux experience. Their current president lead this transformation as a response to the challenges smallish liberal arts colleges find themselves in. It SEEMS to be filling a market niche. Not sure about how much in loans kids are taking out cause Cash flowing 85K+ is not for the faint of heart.

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NO!! High poibt i am sure will leverage sports but their predates their elevation to d1. They absolutely market to the 1% that is tooo dumb to get to ivies. They are almost explicit about how it is a lux vacation. Check out pictures of their on cqmpus dining and "dorms" and gooogle aome of the interviews from their president about enrollment strategy. This is not a boise state strategy

High Point? Sounds like Lawrence Berkeley Lab at night

bearister said:

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I used to root for Pac 12 teams in the tourney. I don't feel that way about the ACC. I hope they all lose. F them all! I hope Arizona wins it.

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Houston.

MiZery said:

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High Point? Sounds like Lawrence Berkeley Lab at night

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More like "Tightwad Hill".

Bye bye Gonzaga

Darius Acuff Jr is elite.

Onebearofpower said:

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Darius Acuff Jr is elite.

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Yes he is.

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MiZery said:

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I refuse to believe Siena has more talent in their lineup than us. They came close to upsetting Duke

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Siena played a great game. Their coach, Gerry McNamara, will probably be coaching his alma mater Syracuse next season.

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Update: It's almost official.

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Syracuse athletic director Bryan Blair spoke to McNamara multiple times over the last week, including both virtually and in person, according to sources.

Syracuse officials stressed during the process a commitment to NIL that projects in the top third of the ACC, sources said.

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BearSD said:

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BearSD said:

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MiZery said:

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I refuse to believe Siena has more talent in their lineup than us. They came close to upsetting Duke

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Siena played a great game. Their coach, Gerry McNamara, will probably be coaching his alma mater Syracuse next season.

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Update: It's almost official.

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Syracuse athletic director Bryan Blair spoke to McNamara multiple times over the last week, including both virtually and in person, according to sources.

Syracuse officials stressed during the process a commitment to NIL that projects in the top third of the ACC, sources said.

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Mo money, mo money, mo money!

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How classic Cal would it be for the National titles in football and hoop to be won by teams where former Cal players played a key role?

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The TCU women won today to reach the Elite Eight with former Cal player Marta Suarez contributing 33 points, 10 rebounds, and 3 assists.

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Good catch, good knowledge and wholly relevant to topic…..but I still have to do this to you:

<smile>

bearister said:

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Why was Stojakovic noticeably absent from the post game huddle around the coach during the interview?

How classic Cal would it be for the National titles in football and hoop to be won by teams where former Cal players played a key role?

Question: What is Iowa's NIL outlay? Asking for a friend, Big C.

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Some quick googling on this very opaque number says 8 to 10 milllion. So likely about double Cal's

#yougetwhatyoupayfor

Duke did a dookie.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWfKRvLD_C1/



Hehehe. I hate the ACC.