Syracuse Game

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3Cats4CAL said:

> So which assistant coach(s) are responsible for the poor offense and should be replaced?
> And is Charmon [sic] willing to get rid of them?

dunno, sorry, but tough love from the cheap seats don't float my boat # GO BEARS
sighned, not dead yet # funk trunk; i.c.e. too
UrsineMaximus
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ClayK said:

For me, the real metric for a coach -- which is impossible to quantify -- is how close the team came to its potential.

No team gets 100% of its potential, and no team gets 0%. The difference, though, lies in the margins.

And there are other factors too. Some coaches are better with marginal talent; some coaches are better with elite talent. It's not a simple job.

But if you look at the talent on the team, and the turnover in the roster, how many more wins should Charmin have had?

And more important, how many coaches who are available to Cal could have done better?



Potential is subjective. What is potential based on? A scouting analyst's report? My analysis of a player? Your analysis. So what is the baseline potential, a subjective whim of someone. That someone is likely biased in some way or another.

Rather than look at, "...how close the team came to its potential.", perhaps one should look at the canvas (blank) Charmin handed herself at the beginning of the season and what she painted. Is last year and this year her potential?

I feel when one watches Cal WBB that frustrations are heightened when college women are consistently and regularly making basic fundamental mistakes. Mistakes that have been drilled since middle school. I tend to not get that frustrated because while I don't feel ~ most nights ~ they play to their "potential" they are pretty close. They are close enough to their ceiling.

Do I feel Charmin would have a better record with the Louisville or Duke players? Yeah, I do. No idea what her potential to have better records then those teams current coaches, that would be subjective.

stu
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Last season we did very well with a core of returning players (plus Kayla). Next season we could again have a core of returning players (plus a center).
HoopDreams
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stu said:

Last season we did very well with a core of returning players (plus Kayla). Next season we could again have a core of returning players (plus a center).

agree. a major key is keeping our core players, starting with Lulu (1A) and Maul (1B)
ClayK
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I watched Louisville lose to Duke when an experienced, highly regarded player make a defensive mistake that would have had me very upset at a JV girl. And that mistake came in the last minute of a crucial game.

And watch any NBA game. You will see numerous fundamental mistakes at both ends of the floor.

To imagine that all such mistakes are the fault of the coaching staff, at whatever level, just flies in the face of reality.

Watch any game at any level and you will see mistakes, fundamental mistakes, on concepts that have been taught since CYO.

Cal won 25 games last year. With one one in postseason, it will win 20 this year despite roster turnover and losing Suarez and Abigor. In a very competitive league with lots of travel.
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+1000

Thank you, ClayK!!
UrsineMaximus
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ClayK said:

I watched Louisville lose to Duke when an experienced, highly regarded player make a defensive mistake that would have had me very upset at a JV girl. And that mistake came in the last minute of a crucial game.

And watch any NBA game. You will see numerous fundamental mistakes at both ends of the floor.

To imagine that all such mistakes are the fault of the coaching staff, at whatever level, just flies in the face of reality.

Watch any game at any level and you will see mistakes, fundamental mistakes, on concepts that have been taught since CYO.

Cal won 25 games last year. With one one in postseason, it will win 20 this year despite roster turnover and losing Suarez and Abigor. In a very competitive league with lots of travel.


yeah, that is obvious. players, like us, are human. i don't think anyone is faulting a coach for that nor do i think ANY coach would fault a player for an "occasional" error. not sure anyone here is addressing that issue at the minute.

You, like me, observed the glaring differential between Cal and the Louisville/Duke rosters, during the latter's game. I feel/think that that is the issue at hand.
stu
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HoopDreams said:

stu said:

Last season we did very well with a core of returning players (plus Kayla). Next season we could again have a core of returning players (plus a center).

agree. a major key is keeping our core players, starting with Lulu (1A) and Maul (1B)

I consider our core to be (in alphabetical order) our returning starters Gisella, Lulu, Mjracle, and Taylor. I'm also hoping everyone else returns.
 
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