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Cal88
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 6:27a, 4/4/26
Trump clearly lied about Epstein and the Iran war to start with. Many independents held out some hope he would deliver on his promises and have since been very disillusioned and disappointed with Trump.


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In reply to BearlySane88 • 9:43a, 4/4/26
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

"Supporter" no, not quite. Kind of agnostic before the war? Yeah.
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In reply to sycasey • 9:45a, 4/4/26
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

"Supporter" no, not quite. Kind of agnostic before the war? Yeah.


If agnostic means 90%+ negative postings about Trump then sure
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 10:55a, 4/4/26
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

Some people have views that evolve as the situation changes or as they learn new things.
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In reply to Big C • 10:57a, 4/4/26
Big C said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

Some people have views that evolve as the situation changes or as they learn new things.


Yes as is human nature. I'm not arguing against that. Since I've been participating in OT, Cal88 has been strongly anti Trump
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In reply to Big C • 11:06a, 4/4/26
Big C said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

Some people have views that evolve as the situation changes or as they learn new things.


And then there are those that are "stuck" in their loser mentality. They are unable to evolve. They are unable to adapt their thinking to new information that evolves over time. They only have one default setting. They literally are dinosaurs. That's why they always lose.

Its been my experience that you usually find people who do this that are either mentally ill or in a cult.

Just ask Donald Trump.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 11:19a, 4/4/26
DiabloWags said:
Big C said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

Some people have views that evolve as the situation changes or as they learn new things.


And then there are those that are "stuck" in their loser mentality. They are unable to evolve. They are unable to adapt their thinking to new information that evolves over time. They only have one default setting. They literally are dinosaurs. That's why they always lose.

Its been my experience that you usually find people who do this that are either mentally ill or in a cult.


You really shouldn't say such mean things about yourself
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 11:40a, 4/4/26
BearlySane88 said:
Big C said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

Some people have views that evolve as the situation changes or as they learn new things.


Yes as is human nature. I'm not arguing against that. Since I've been participating in OT, Cal88 has been strongly anti Trump


You haven't been here that long.

Trump run on an anti-war platform, did his fake routine about releasing the Epstein files, then did a 180. Among other failures in his second mandate.
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In reply to Cal88 • 11:53a, 4/4/26
Cal88 said:
BearlySane88 said:
Big C said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

Some people have views that evolve as the situation changes or as they learn new things.


Yes as is human nature. I'm not arguing against that. Since I've been participating in OT, Cal88 has been strongly anti Trump


You haven't been here that long.

Trump run on an anti-war platform, did his fake routine about releasing the Epstein files, then did a 180. Among other failures in his second mandate.


I said I haven't been here that long and prefaced by statement with you were anti Trump before Venezuela or Iran. Do you have anything to add that I didn't already say?
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In reply to DiabloWags • 11:59a, 4/4/26
DiabloWags said:
Big C said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

Some people have views that evolve as the situation changes or as they learn new things.


And then there are those that are "stuck" in their loser mentality. They are unable to evolve. They are unable to adapt their thinking to new information that evolves over time. They only have one default setting. They literally are dinosaurs. That's why they always lose.

Its been my experience that you usually find people who do this that are either mentally ill or in a cult.

Just ask Donald Trump.


When talking about yourself, please choose kindness.
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In reply to Cal88 • 1:07p, 4/4/26
Cal88 said:
Trump clearly lied about Epstein and the Iran war to start with. Many independents held out some hope he would deliver on his promises and have since been very disillusioned and disappointed with Trump.

There are certainly people, both independents and MAGA, who are disappointed that the DOJ hasn't arrested anyone they deemed significant, either his political enemies or those associated with Epstein. There are certainly people who are disappointed that we attacked Iran.

The DOJ did release millions of Epstein files that the left now has diminishing interest in because they don't implicate Trump in any wrongdoing. By the way, this didn't start as a campaign promise as it was Trump's response to a particular podcaster (Lex Friedman) that "he'll look into it."

As for Iran, if this thing ends up going on forever, then sure, Trump deserves all the criticism but for now, I don't see any inconsistencies between what he said during campaigning and even much earlier than that. His positions were clear.

And so, while independents may be disillusioned with Trump now, there's still a lifetime away until the midterms. If what has already happened is too much to overcome, you should see the abysmal approval numbers for Democrats.
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In reply to Cal88 • 1:07p, 4/4/26
Cal88 said:
BearlySane88 said:
Big C said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

Some people have views that evolve as the situation changes or as they learn new things.


Yes as is human nature. I'm not arguing against that. Since I've been participating in OT, Cal88 has been strongly anti Trump


You haven't been here that long.

Trump run on an anti-war platform, did his fake routine about releasing the Epstein files, then did a 180. Among other failures in his second mandate.


I truly admire your honesty!!! (Especially in the face if it not making you look so good)
I'd say offenses during his 2016 candidacy LIFE, and failures of his first term merited your opposition long ago, but whatever, we'll take it!!
Thank you and glad to have you aboard.


Unfortunately, the consequences are pretty much baked in at this point. It's just a matter of time.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:18p, 4/4/26
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
Definitely not in your world of Trump groupie, but in the real world, US, UK and Omani sources confirmed that Iran was willing to give away their enriched uranium stockpile, before Israel literally killed their negotiating party.


In your world of Trump haters, you'd believe anything that someone said against Trump. It makes most of what you post highly unreliable and biased

Cal88 wasn't really an anti-Trump guy before the election. He has obviously become so after this war started.


He has not been a Trump supporter since I've been active on OT and that was long before this war.

"Supporter" no, not quite. Kind of agnostic before the war? Yeah.


If agnostic means 90%+ negative postings about Trump then sure

Before the election? No, he wasn't doing that.
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11:20p, 4/5/26
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 9:26a, 4/6/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump
LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 10:59a, 4/6/26
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump
LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.


Man I wish I had been active here during Biden's mental deterioration so I'd know which of you were being hypocritical, like usual.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 11:12a, 4/6/26
BearlySane88 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump

LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.


Man I wish I had been active here during Biden's mental deterioration so I'd know which of you were being hypocritical, like usual.

Here's the list



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In reply to BearlySane88 • 11:25a, 4/6/26
BearlySane88 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump

LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.


Man I wish I had been active here during Biden's mental deterioration so I'd know which of you were being hypocritical, like usual.

I have some reading material for your enjoyment.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/121152/1
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/121199/1

Watching an entire group of people have their information bubble burst in real-time and seeing the cope was one of the greatest moments in the history of this forum.
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11:32a, 4/6/26
To be matched only by Mueller's testimony where the board was eagerly awaiting the promised "sealed indictments"
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 11:37a, 4/6/26
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump

LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.


But he sure knew how to quote DoJ special counsel JOHN DURHAM.
lol

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In reply to Aunburdened • 11:50a, 4/6/26
Aunburdened said:
BearlySane88 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump

LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.


Man I wish I had been active here during Biden's mental deterioration so I'd know which of you were being hypocritical, like usual.

I have some reading material for your enjoyment.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/121152/1
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/121199/1

Watching an entire group of people have their information bubble burst in real-time and seeing the cope was one of the greatest moments in the history of this forum.


I cannot wait to read this
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 12:56p, 4/6/26
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump

LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.

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In reply to Aunburdened • 3:03p, 4/6/26
Aunburdened said:
BearlySane88 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump

LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.


Man I wish I had been active here during Biden's mental deterioration so I'd know which of you were being hypocritical, like usual.

I have some reading material for your enjoyment.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/121152/1
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/121199/1

Watching an entire group of people have their information bubble burst in real-time and seeing the cope was one of the greatest moments in the history of this forum.

Wow, the poster who started that second thread (^), beginning by declaring that Biden was toast on the very evening of the first debate... you could pretty much get an education in American presidential politics by scrolling through the 14 pages and reading his/her posts. Very politically astute!
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 3:32p, 4/6/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump

LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.



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In reply to Cal88 • 3:37p, 4/6/26
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump

LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.





100% bad faith

What he was saying was no more US involvement in wars like Ukraine/Russia. You can do better than that
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 4:22p, 4/6/26
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
"Open the effing Strait you crazy bastages!

Praise be to Allah!"

- Trump

LOL, you don't even quote Trump directly to hide his mental deterioration.





100% bad faith

What he was saying was no more US involvement in wars like Ukraine/Russia. You can do better than that


Projection at that level is beyond pathetic, of course he was talking about endless war in the Middle East, in addition to Ukraine, same as the cult leader in chief:



Funny how all these clowns like Catturd will instantly turn on a dime if the cult leader tells them to, like sardines in a school of fish.

"We've always been at war with Eastasia"

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4:40p, 4/6/26


SaneBear: "hE mEanT uKRaiNe wAr!"
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In reply to Cal88 • 4:48p, 4/6/26
No he wasn't saying that but you keep on with your bad faith arguments.

Long before that tweet, Trump was saying he would go into Iran if he was president.
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In reply to Cal88 • 4:49p, 4/6/26
Cal88 said:


SaneBear: "hE mEanT uKRaiNe wAr!"


Yes, he meant wars that we had no business being in. Going into Iran however is us protecting Americans from a nuclear Iran.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:05p, 4/6/26
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:


SaneBear: "hE mEanT uKRaiNe wAr!"


Yes, he meant wars that we had no business being in. Going into Iran however is us protecting Americans from a nuclear Iran.

I think you are going to define "a war we had business being in as "a war Trump starts."
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In reply to sycasey • 5:18p, 4/6/26
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Cal88 said:


SaneBear: "hE mEanT uKRaiNe wAr!"


Yes, he meant wars that we had no business being in. Going into Iran however is us protecting Americans from a nuclear Iran.

I think you are going to define "a war we had business being in as "a war Trump starts."


Nope I'd define that as a war started by another country that we shell billions into and aren't even involved
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