New York City race for Mayor

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dajo9
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wifeisafurd said:

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Cal88 said:





Also, wasn't the city deficit reduced by a state bailout?



The rest of the deficit was covered by delaying pension funding programs so they will go unfunded for five years. Nice F-U to City workers.


That is inaccurate. Post Great Recession legislation required additional funding in anticipation of lower stock market returns. Given high actual stock market returns the additional funding has overfunded the pensions. Based on the old legislation the overfunding would be returned from 2033-2038. Mamdani's change is simply smoothing the funding curve. The pensions are not unfunded.

My mother in law receives a NYC pension. Our family has real skin in the game here beyond trying to score political points.

https://fiscalpolicy.org/explainer-the-proposed-restructuring-of-new-york-city-pension-payments
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As mayor, do something instead of agreeing with an actor.
Cal88
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He's going to balance next year's budget during halftime.
movielover
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Boom.

Cal88
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sycasey
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PAC-10-BEAR said:



Didn't know you guys were such Andrew Cuomo fans now.
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sycasey said:

Didn't know you guys were such Andrew Cuomo fans now.

I hope Mamdani takes over the Democratic Party.
dajo9
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PAC-10-BEAR said:



It's funny how during the 2024 election they said they only wanted to deport illegal aliens and people like me said they wanted to declare legal aliens to be illegal and then deport them and they said we were lying. Now they are doing exactly what they called us liars for wanting to do.
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dajo9 said:

Now they are doing exactly what they called us liars for wanting to do.

they're shameless
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dajo9 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:



It's funny how during the 2024 election they said they only wanted to deport illegal aliens and people like me said they wanted to declare legal aliens to be illegal and then deport them and they said we were lying. Now they are doing exactly what they called us liars for wanting to do.


How long does temporary mean to you?
Muckieeye
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Temporary just means "not permanent ". There is no implication of duration, other than an implied end some time in the future.

Words aren't that hard - unless you only process information through a highly partisan filter.
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Muckieeye said:

Temporary just means "not permanent ". There is no implication of duration, other than an implied end some time in the future.



Thank you for proving my point. Not permanent. The end time is now.
Muckieeye
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Most of your "points" are unprovable as they are merely your opinions. Conservatives often confuse their opinions with facts, so I understand the difficulty you are having.

Yes. An end at some point. Perhaps today. Tomorrow. Next year. 50 years from now. Not permanent. Temporary.

You are welcome.
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Muckieeye said:



Yes. An end at some point. Perhaps today. Tomorrow. Next year. 50 years from now. Not permanent. Temporary.



Thank you for again proving my point. Their stay here was temporary and it will now end.
Muckieeye
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Again - not your point. Now you are just stating a fact.

Weird how you lot constantly spike the ball and do your dance when something happens that you had no control over.

"The rigged Supreme Court just screwed over hundreds of thousands of refugees from shi_hole countries that we are told to hate! WINNING!"
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BearlySane88
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Muckieeye said:

Again - not your point. Now you are just stating a fact.



Absolutely my point as I first asked "what does temporary mean to you?" Temporary means it ends. They were here temporarily. Thank you for repeatedly reminding everyone what temporary means and that it makes sense to send them back.

I'm very aware it's a fact, which is why I made the point. It's is funny because you said all my points are opinions but now it's a fact, which is it?
Muckieeye
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You asked a sarcastic question "How long is temporary to you?" Implying that there is a definite end. Words matter. And you should try to remember what you type.
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BearlySane88
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Muckieeye said:

You asked a sarcastic question "How long is temporary to you?" Implying that there is a definite end. Words matter. And you should try to remember what you type.


I asked the question because we all know what temporary means yet some of yall are upset that the Supreme Court ruled that temporary means exactly what we all know it to mean. You keep continuing to prove me right.
sycasey
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The President does have the right to end temporary protected status for certain groups of immigrants. He can do it if he wants. I just think it's the wrong decision here and will cause more harm than good.
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sycasey said:

The President does have the right to end temporary protected status for certain groups of immigrants. He can do it if he wants. I just think it's the wrong decision here and will cause more harm than good.


Yes, that's a different conversation entirely. I think it'll be interesting to see how they implement it, blanket deportations?
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PAC-10-BEAR said:




Sliwa - spoiler?
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BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

The President does have the right to end temporary protected status for certain groups of immigrants. He can do it if he wants. I just think it's the wrong decision here and will cause more harm than good.


Yes, that's a different conversation entirely. I think it'll be interesting to see how they implement it, blanket deportations?


A Lib judge will give one more bite at the apple.
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dajo9 said:

It's funny how during the 2024 election they said they only wanted to deport illegal aliens and people like me said they wanted to declare legal aliens to be illegal and then deport them and they said we were lying. Now they are doing exactly what they called us liars for wanting to do.

Foreign tourists are also legal aliens.
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Hey, why don't we just do the following? Just take what the Supreme Court gave us, and let's go to New York City and say, "Mamdani you talk a big game bro, but they're all leaving. We got the buses outside. Let's load them up, take them right out there to LaGuardia, got a plane, boom. Next stop, Haiti. Next stop, Syria." Maybe lead with the Syrians. It's got to happen. If it doesn't happen, you don't have a country.
movielover
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Look at Europe. Citizen Vigilante 2.0 movie already planned.
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"My official statement on the budget, as read in chambers this evening, before I was muted:

"I've been a member of this city council going on five years now. And I've voted yes on the budget every year so far. All of them had problems. All of them contained things I didn't like or agree with. But I'm not here to demand perfection, I'm here to work with what we have within reason.

Unfortunately, this year is very different. And I must vote no.

Even in the context of our dysfunctional city government, this year's budget represents a complete departure from reality, spending more money than we've ever spent precisely when we can least afford it.

We have never seen a larger single-year increase in spending in the history of this city. Requiring not only new taxes from Albany, but pension deferrals and an eight billion dollar bailout from the Governor. And even still, the revenue projections are optimistic at best.

This isn't a 'balanced budget' it's budget by bailout. A ticking time bomb.

And it's the beginning of a fiscal death spiral that our current leadership will not be able to pull us out of, because they lack both the experience and the seriousness to do so.

What will we do next year? And the year after?

The only responsible way for our city to spend more is to grow the economy. New businesses, new private economic development, major investment. That's how you grow an economy, and get more money into the city budget.

But we're doing the opposite. Deliberately chasing away everything our city needs to sustain our spending with childish political attacks on very people we need most.

Our tax base is isn't growing. It's leaving.

The middle class, the financial sector, and businesses of all sizes are choosing to go elsewhere. And they're being replaced with low-income foreigners and transplants who require significant subsidies just to survive here.

We're trading investment banks and small businesses for delivery app drivers on welfare, and nonprofit workers whose paychecks ultimately come from government spending. That isn't growth.

And when ordinary New Yorkers complain, they're told to shut up and leave if they don't like it. And that's exactly what many are doing.

This is obviously unsustainable. But nobody in this chamber really seems to care.

And what are we getting for our money? We already spend more in real dollars AND per capita on everything from schools to housing to healthcare than anyone else in the country.

We can't even build a public bathroom for less than three million dollars.

Why would anyone believe that shoveling even MORE money into this broken system will improve anything?

It won't. I guarantee that we'll all be sitting here again a year from now, with the exact same problems, listening to the exact same lectures about how the city needs even MORE money, AGAIN.

At what point do we, as a City Council, start to demand results before we allow more spending? When do we demand accountability?

The answer seems to be never. Because this spending isn't really meant to fix anything. It's meant to keep the machine going, keep the money flowing into the special interests and nonprofits and the political allies of the Mayor, with no real consideration for anything else.

I realize a lot of people don't want to hear this, but we are a municipal government, not a sociology experiment or a political slush fund or the United Nations.

We are here keep the lights on, keep the water running, pave the roads, and put criminals in jail. That's it. And we would be very well advised to get back to basics. Because we're failing on nearly every count, other than our peerless ability to hand out free money.

Shame on this Council for pretending this budget is anything other than a disaster. I know that my single vote ultimately doesn't matter here, but nonetheless I won't put my name on it. I respectfully vote no."
movielover
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Facebook claim: BREAKING: 47 BILLION just walked out of New York. New York Lost 892 Companies and $47 Billion in Income.

IRS migration data confirms the exodus is real:

892 companies left New York

$47 Billion in income gone with them

Florida gained 341 of those companies

Texas took 187

North Carolina added 129
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Cal88
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^Data centers currently use up 4% of US power, set to reach 12% in 2-3 years.

Mamdani won't have to do that kind of messaging very long, as rising electricity costs are going to reduce households demand...
DiabloWags
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movielover said:

Facebook claim: BREAKING: 47 BILLION just walked out of New York. New York Lost 892 Companies and $47 Billion in Income.

IRS migration data confirms the exodus is real:

892 companies left New York

$47 Billion in income gone with them

Florida gained 341 of those companies

Texas took 187

North Carolina added 129


For context, I believe the GDP of NYC is $1.8 TRILLION and for all of NY STATE is $2.5 TRILLION.
$47 Billion is peanuts.


 
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