Soccer Topics: No goalies in the USA

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~ whoops -- own gaols*?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/09/football-world-cup-pathology-trump-regime

"Whenever my kids and I are stationary in the same room, within five minutes they will have started talking about football. Every now and then, a name will float out that I recognise Jude Bellingham, say but most of the time it lacks the dramatic texture to hold my attention. Everyone is either a genius or an irretrievable loser.

There's a lot of counting. "Would you watch a play in which everyone was either entirely wise or entirely stupid and the rest of it was mainly a body count?" I ask, trying to wedge myself back into the conversation. They reply: "Hello? Romeo and Juliet?!" then go back to the shortcomings of La Liga, so I go back to looking at my phone.

Sometimes I wonder if they've constructed an elaborate code, the way parents switch to French in front of small kids when they want to talk about getting the cat put down, although their dad and I never did that, because he's very honest and I don't speak French.

Imagine their surprise and delight, then, to discover that, on the eve of the World Cup the first such epochal event for which the oldest child has authentic ID I have an array of very strong views, complete with merch. I came home the other day with Football Against Fascism beer mats, hot off the press, to the inevitable queries about what the hell I know about football. I can still cheerfully say: 'Absolutely nothing," but I know a thing or two about fascism.

One person who is all over both those things is Shaista Aziz, the founder and director of The 3 Hijabis, a long-term campaign against racism in football. She, along with the rest of the Stop Trump Coalition, has nailed down the main problem with the main World Cup host.

The US isn't a safe place to visit. This point was made vividly when the Swiss forward Breel Embolo was denied an Esta visa waiver three hours before he was due to take off for the US last Tuesday. The Swiss authorities remained optimistic and careful in their language. In many ways, Embolo could thank his lucky stars that he was denied entry while still in Switzerland. Had he been denied entry on US soil, who is to say he wouldn't have spent six weeks in detention, as numerous tourists have?

What could border officials possibly have had against Switzerland's first-choice striker? Perhaps they misunderstood our European jargon and thought he was liable to go on strike, as is threatened by numerous US labour unions representing hospitality workers, worried about potential ICE raids of stadiums during the tournament.

Perhaps it was about Embolo's criminal conviction for an altercation in 2018, although that would lay some landmines, since he's not the only footballer to have one of those. Could it have been because he isn't white? In this pantomime, you're not really supposed to ask: you mention racism, the authority either denies it or stonewalls it, then it hangs in the air and it's your fault, because you summoned the word. Whoops, now it's Thursday and Embolo has permission to travel after all the authorities were just checking that the incident for which he was convicted was nonviolent. Don't you look stupid?

Travelling fans, meanwhile, run the risk of having their social media trawled for anti-Trump sentiment this may be what happened to a bunch of Scottish fans, whose Esta status suddenly changed to "travel not authorised" without explanation. But then again, how can you know for sure?

Pathocracy is a system of government in which a small pathological minority has taken control of a society of normal people. If we were going to go over again whether or not the US is one, we would definitely take in Pete Hegseth's D-day speech, in which he equated migrants and Nazis. But this is what a pathocracy does it constantly tests your boundaries, looking for the point at which you'll say: "That is unacceptable." International football is a great canvas for that: the stakes are so high; there's so much money involved; the imperative to play nicely and not ruin things is so strong. Governments and football's governing bodies the world over, it quickly transpires, will accept almost anything. But it's a canvas, too, for fans to name what is staring them in the face, starting with a beer mat."
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sluggo
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Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats
sluggo
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I used to talk about the US playing a 3-4-2-1. Lately I say it is a 4-2-3-1. Because it is kind of both. See this video. (I think the easiest way to think of it is an unbalanced 4-2-3-1 where the right back usually stays back and the left back usually goes forward.). Two of the best players on the team were right backs (Freeman and Dest) so Dest was moved up to right wing.

dajo9
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sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats


So, not empty. But why is FIFA renting an empty space from Trump?
sluggo
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dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats


So, not empty. But why is FIFA renting an empty space from Trump?

It is probably low level corruption. If that is the worst corruption in this event, it would be amazing. Remember the last two Cups were in Qatar and Russia.
concordtom
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dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats


So, not empty. But why is FIFA renting an empty space from Trump?

Why did fifa invent a peace prize and present it to Trump?

We all know.
concordtom
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This guy on your list?

concordtom
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Article says 180k tickets still unsold.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/fifa-still-180k-world-cup-103426733.html
dajo9
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sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats


So, not empty. But why is FIFA renting an empty space from Trump?

It is probably low level corruption. If that is the worst corruption in this event, it would be amazing. Remember the last two Cups were in Qatar and Russia.

FIFA is completely corrupt. But so is Trump and that is my concern because he is President. Why did FIFA feel obliged to give the President a bribe?

Also, in regards to Qatar and Russia (which should have never been hosts), they were very welcoming hosts because they were trying to convince the world they belong in the company of "top tier" countries (for lack of a better phrase). America does not have that problem (yet) so we are actually behaving as terrible hosts. It is looking like it will be a memorable World Cup for all the wrong reasons.
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https://www.npr.org/2026/06/09/nx-s1-5851593/are-we-ready-to-host-the-fifa-world-cup-and-who-can-afford-to-go

Laura Williamson on Fresh Air
Complaining about the ticket prices and much more.
dajo9
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concordtom said:

Article says 180k tickets still unsold.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/fifa-still-180k-world-cup-103426733.html

That's not terrible. It's 1,730 tickets per game, or about 3% of seats assuming 60,000 seat stadiums. They can give those tickets away to corporate sponsors to fill the seats. They will take a hit in the pocketbook but they deserve that.
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dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats


So, not empty. But why is FIFA renting an empty space from Trump?

It is probably low level corruption. If that is the worst corruption in this event, it would be amazing. Remember the last two Cups were in Qatar and Russia.

FIFA is completely corrupt. But so is Trump and that is my concern because he is President. Why did FIFA feel obliged to give the President a bribe?

Also, in regards to Qatar and Russia (which should have never been hosts), they were very welcoming hosts because they were trying to convince the world they belong in the company of "top tier" countries (for lack of a better phrase). America does not have that problem (yet) so we are actually behaving as terrible hosts. It is looking like it will be a memorable World Cup for all the wrong reasons.

Look up Zurich 2015 fifa scandal
concordtom
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dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

Article says 180k tickets still unsold.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/fifa-still-180k-world-cup-103426733.html

That's not terrible. It's 1,730 tickets per game, or about 3% of seats assuming 60,000 seat stadiums. They can give those tickets away to corporate sponsors to fill the seats. They will take a hit in the pocketbook but they deserve that.

Ha, we think alike.
I hadn't calculated the math but was figuring. Listen to the npr piece.

She's b*tching about dynamic pricing scheme with lines like "there's no discount for long time supporters who have gone to every game." I'm thinking she's nuts. But if they have any unused seats, fifa is dumb as a rock. The bad will that they're generating…!
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prospeCt said:

~ whoops -- own gaols*?



That's how they used to spell JAIL
sluggo
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Of course Sullivan is on my list. He was considered one of the best 14-year-olds in the world if not the best. He has not grown as much as he might have, so I worry a little about his athleticism. But he is a good MLS player already at 16. He has the sixth sense that great players have where they feel all the players around them. His ceiling is best US midfielder ever. He should be ready by 2030, one of 3 or 4 players that will upgrade our current core, most of whom should be back and still in their primes in 2030.
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dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats


So, not empty. But why is FIFA renting an empty space from Trump?

It is probably low level corruption. If that is the worst corruption in this event, it would be amazing. Remember the last two Cups were in Qatar and Russia.

FIFA is completely corrupt. But so is Trump and that is my concern because he is President. Why did FIFA feel obliged to give the President a bribe?

Also, in regards to Qatar and Russia (which should have never been hosts), they were very welcoming hosts because they were trying to convince the world they belong in the company of "top tier" countries (for lack of a better phrase). America does not have that problem (yet) so we are actually behaving as terrible hosts. It is looking like it will be a memorable World Cup for all the wrong reasons.

At this point If I have to explain why they gave Trump a "gift" then you would not understand the answer.

We are still free people, unlike Qatar or Russia. All the workers that died building Qatari stadiums are a million times worse than anything that happened here (so far). I hate what happened to the Somali referee and other nonsense, but I think it can still be a great World Cup. I know I will enjoy the heck out of it.
concordtom
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The athletes will compete, and that will make it a good show.
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Translated from Spanish
"I've never seen anything like this. In Somalia today, a stadium filled up to welcome Omar Artan as a national hero, the referee whom the United States denied entry to the World Cup. Unbelievable."
dajo9
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sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats


So, not empty. But why is FIFA renting an empty space from Trump?

It is probably low level corruption. If that is the worst corruption in this event, it would be amazing. Remember the last two Cups were in Qatar and Russia.

FIFA is completely corrupt. But so is Trump and that is my concern because he is President. Why did FIFA feel obliged to give the President a bribe?

Also, in regards to Qatar and Russia (which should have never been hosts), they were very welcoming hosts because they were trying to convince the world they belong in the company of "top tier" countries (for lack of a better phrase). America does not have that problem (yet) so we are actually behaving as terrible hosts. It is looking like it will be a memorable World Cup for all the wrong reasons.

At this point If I have to explain why they gave Trump a "gift" then you would not understand the answer.

We are still free people, unlike Qatar or Russia. All the workers that died building Qatari stadiums are a million times worse than anything that happened here (so far). I hate what happened to the Somali referee and other nonsense, but I think it can still be a great World Cup. I know I will enjoy the heck out of it.


I was speaking about hosting.
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sluggo
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dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats


So, not empty. But why is FIFA renting an empty space from Trump?

It is probably low level corruption. If that is the worst corruption in this event, it would be amazing. Remember the last two Cups were in Qatar and Russia.

FIFA is completely corrupt. But so is Trump and that is my concern because he is President. Why did FIFA feel obliged to give the President a bribe?

Also, in regards to Qatar and Russia (which should have never been hosts), they were very welcoming hosts because they were trying to convince the world they belong in the company of "top tier" countries (for lack of a better phrase). America does not have that problem (yet) so we are actually behaving as terrible hosts. It is looking like it will be a memorable World Cup for all the wrong reasons.

At this point If I have to explain why they gave Trump a "gift" then you would not understand the answer.

We are still free people, unlike Qatar or Russia. All the workers that died building Qatari stadiums are a million times worse than anything that happened here (so far). I hate what happened to the Somali referee and other nonsense, but I think it can still be a great World Cup. I know I will enjoy the heck out of it.


I was speaking about hosting.

I don't think the hosting can be separated from the internal workings of the country. In Qatar either hundreds or thousands (depending on who you believe) semi-slave laborers died building the stadiums. And female Qataris lack basic rights. So sure their customs officials were friendlier, but I feel much worse about the World Cup there.
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sluggo said:

Of course Sullivan is on my list. He was considered one of the best 14-year-olds in the world if not the best. He has not grown as much as he might have, so I worry a little about his athleticism. But he is a good MLS player already at 16. He has the sixth sense that great players have where they feel all the players around them. His ceiling is best US midfielder ever. He should be ready by 2030, one of 3 or 4 players that will upgrade our current core, most of whom should be back and still in their primes in 2030.

Below is 16-year-old Sullivan against Ivory Coast's World Cup first team in a practice game a couple days ago. He earned a penalty (that he missed). He could contribute now if he was on the team. I just wish he was a little faster, he might not need as many fakes and stops and starts. He is also very left-footed, but many of the best players are also very one-footed. (Messi and Yamal, to name two.)

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dajo9 said:

Also, in regards to Qatar and Russia (which should have never been hosts), they were very welcoming hosts because they were trying to convince the world they belong in the company of "top tier" countries (for lack of a better phrase). America does not have that problem (yet) so we are actually behaving as terrible hosts. It is looking like it will be a memorable World Cup for all the wrong reasons.

Imagine Joe Biden's USA hosting the World Cup and at the same time claiming the biggest problem we have domestically is white supremacy!

How awkward.
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dajo9 said:


I was speaking about hosting.

I hear previous hosts, Quatar, Russia, and South Africa are wonderful places for women, LGBTQ+, slaves, and white people.
dajo9
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sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

dajo9 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



That is nothing, Chuck Blazer had an apartment for his cats.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2258023-concacaf-paid-6000-a-month-for-an-apartment-for-chuck-blazers-cats


So, not empty. But why is FIFA renting an empty space from Trump?

It is probably low level corruption. If that is the worst corruption in this event, it would be amazing. Remember the last two Cups were in Qatar and Russia.

FIFA is completely corrupt. But so is Trump and that is my concern because he is President. Why did FIFA feel obliged to give the President a bribe?

Also, in regards to Qatar and Russia (which should have never been hosts), they were very welcoming hosts because they were trying to convince the world they belong in the company of "top tier" countries (for lack of a better phrase). America does not have that problem (yet) so we are actually behaving as terrible hosts. It is looking like it will be a memorable World Cup for all the wrong reasons.

At this point If I have to explain why they gave Trump a "gift" then you would not understand the answer.

We are still free people, unlike Qatar or Russia. All the workers that died building Qatari stadiums are a million times worse than anything that happened here (so far). I hate what happened to the Somali referee and other nonsense, but I think it can still be a great World Cup. I know I will enjoy the heck out of it.


I was speaking about hosting.

I don't think the hosting can be separated from the internal workings of the country. In Qatar either hundreds or thousands (depending on who you believe) semi-slave laborers died building the stadiums. And female Qataris lack basic rights. So sure their customs officials were friendlier, but I feel much worse about the World Cup there.


That's why I said it shouldn't have been there
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You probably can't read this article as it is behind a paywall. But it says that 32k applied for 5500 free tickets to watch the USMNT PRACTICE in Irvine. We are talking about PRACTICE. In 1998 I saw the USMNT practice during my lunch break at some side fields at Stanford with like 50 other hearty souls. The growth in fans is huge and important.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/annkillion/article/postcards-world-cup-found-cup-fever-irvine-no-22298071.php
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sluggo said:

You probably can't read this article as it is behind a paywal..
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/annkillion/article/postcards-world-cup-found-cup-fever-irvine-no-22298071.php

somehow the lede leaked..

> IRVINE, Orange County I found it! World Cup Fever! Our sprawling country, where soccer is popular but not the oxygen we breathe, hasn't exactly jumped onto the World Cup bandwagon. Most host cities, including the Bay Area, are reporting little buzz or visibility.

But on Monday morning, I found true World Cup enthusiasm. To do it, I had to fly to Orange County, rent a car and drive to a place that didn't exist a decade ago. The development of Great Park in Irvine, the former site of the El Toro Marine Corps Air Station, was approved almost a quarter-century ago but didn't really take shape until about 2017.

Now it is a massive 500-acre maze of housing developments and sports complexes, including a 5,000-seat soccer stadium and surrounding fields.

That's where the U.S. men's national team is holding base camp for the next three weeks. Its first training session was Monday morning, and it was open to the public: 5,500 free tickets were made available and 32,000 individuals applied for them in a lottery. The arriving crowd choked the newly paved streets and roundabouts of Great Park, thrilled to be able to get close to the World Cup without having to pay four figures.

>>> etc etc
sighned, not dead yet # funk trunk; i.c.e. too
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I know we are all supposed to hate Rahm Emanuel but he turned out to be the smartest negotiatior in America in dealing with FIFA. And that is why Chicago doesn't have any games, to their benefit.

https://attackofthefanboy.com/sports/former-chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-explains-why-he-turned-down-hosting-2026-world-cup-games-citing-fifas-financial-terms-and-a-dome-demand/
concordtom
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sluggo said:

You probably can't read this article as it is behind a paywall. But it says that 32k applied for 5500 free tickets to watch the USMNT PRACTICE in Irvine. We are talking about PRACTICE. In 1998 I saw the USMNT practice during my lunch break at some side fields at Stanford with like 50 other hearty souls. The growth in fans is huge and important.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/annkillion/article/postcards-world-cup-found-cup-fever-irvine-no-22298071.php


The amazing thing about this post is, What the hell are you doing hanging around there for?

(Yes, that's an attempt at humor)
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WORLD CUP STARTS TODAY

Group A:

MEXICO VS SOUTH AFRICA AT 12 noon
Mexico City

SOUTH KOREA VS CHECHNIA AT 7 pm
Guadalajara

I don't understand the 8pm local kickoff time for that second game.
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concordtom said:

sluggo said:

You probably can't read this article as it is behind a paywall. But it says that 32k applied for 5500 free tickets to watch the USMNT PRACTICE in Irvine. We are talking about PRACTICE. In 1998 I saw the USMNT practice during my lunch break at some side fields at Stanford with like 50 other hearty souls. The growth in fans is huge and important.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/annkillion/article/postcards-world-cup-found-cup-fever-irvine-no-22298071.php


The amazing thing about this post is, What the hell are you doing hanging around there for?

(Yes, that's an attempt at humor)

Watching my favorite team practice. I read they were playing there, I was not on a walk or something.
concordtom
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Interesting position on a futbol show:

What if the referees assembled all decided to boycott unless the African referee was accommodated.

Why couldn't he just do the games in Mexico or Canada?
They assemble their camp in Florida.

Horrible situation.
But I fancy the idea of refs F'ing up the tournament and making infantino face trump.
sluggo
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concordtom said:

Interesting position on a futbol show:

What if the referees assembled all decided to boycott unless the African referee was accommodated.

Why couldn't he just do the games in Mexico or Canada?
They assemble their camp in Florida.

Horrible situation.
But I fancy the idea of refs F'ing up the tournament and making infantino face trump.


They would get backup refs. MLS is off during the World Cup. I wish Infantino stood up but he is publicly doing the opposite.
sluggo
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I try to keep this thread away from politics but it is too delicious that on the first day of the Cup one participant is bombing another and the leader of the bombing country won the first FIFA Peace Prize. Will they make him give it back? Who gets it next year? Putin?
 
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