New warehouses, manufacturing plants going up right now as the BBB kicked in January 1st.

Our so-called leaders were so myopic, paid off crooks, dimwitted. Allowing or even incentivising the offshoring of key manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, etc was and is absurd.

You should ask yourself how much of our current 2.1% GDP is coming from the Ai surge which will eventually peak.

I repeat again . . . Trump's Trade Policy & Tariffs have failed to decrease the Trade Deficit
That's a fact.

Wow. Big drop in prime age labor participation. From 83.9 to 83.3 in 1 month.

These 4 charts sum up the latest jobs report.
But I will anxiously await commentary from Amuse before I come to any conclusions.

.@POTUS: "Taiwan literally took 100% of the [semiconductor] business almost ... and I have them all moving back. They’re all moving back into this country. We’re going to have 40 to 50 to 60% of the chips, I think, by the time or pretty close to the time I leave office." pic.twitter.com/a8D5W6ZVmK

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) July 2, 2026

If we have the chips, we no longer have strategic need for Taiwan, which leads into the thesis that the US are removing their influence on China and Russia's borders (Ukraine and Taiwan), and in exchange they are removing their influence from our hemisphere in places like Panama, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.

Trump, Putin, and Xi, may already have a deal in place.

bs-ers gonna bs

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the robots are going to need a lot of chips.

I believe the Biden Administration continued Trump 1.0 policies, and Trump 2.0 put it into hyperdrive w tariffs, investments, BBB, etc.

Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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of course it didn't. You don't invest in RE do you?

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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That only would make sense to the extent real estate inflation was higher than general inflation

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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This is one of those things they will say didn't happen until they are forced to say yeah it happened but not that much.

BearlySane88 said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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This is one of those things they will say didn't happen until they are forced to say yeah it happened but not that much.

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read the article carefully. The click bait missed an important word, "of". So you can adjust your outrage downward a notch or two or Pac 10 can clarify the click bait link.

"The economists estimate unauthorized immigrant worker flows accounted for about 30% of employment growth, roughly 30% of home-price growth, and about 20% of rent growth in the average metropolitan area between March 2021 and March 2024.

They stress these estimates apply to the average metro area studied and do not suggest immigration was the sole driver of rising housing costs."

cal83dls79 said:

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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This is one of those things they will say didn't happen until they are forced to say yeah it happened but not that much.

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read the article carefully. The click bait missed an important word, "of". So you can adjust your outrage downward a notch or two or Pac 10 can clarify the click bait link.

"The economists estimate unauthorized immigrant worker flows accounted for about 30% of employment growth, roughly 30% of home-price growth, and about 20% of rent growth in the average metropolitan area between March 2021 and March 2024.

They stress these estimates apply to the average metro area studied and do not suggest immigration was the sole driver of rising housing costs."

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I don't think anyone has argued that it's the sole driver, just a significant driver as pointed out by the stats you chose to quote.

You're telling me 30% cheaper homes and 20% cheaper rent wouldn't be a huge relief for Americans?

The NY Post based their claims from a working paper written by the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank.

Rather than fall prey to the "click-bait" from the notorious tabloid known as the NY Post, I suggest that people read the actual research paper

The Impacts of Unauthorized Immigration on U.S. Labor and Housing Markets: New Evidence from Administrative Microdata - Research Dept. Working Paper No. 2607 - Dallas Fed

Interestingly enough, the Dallas Federal Reserve did not find that a massive wave of 7 million unauthorized immigrants during the 2021 - 2024 period caused lower wages for Americans, as many Trumpers have claimed in this forum.

From Page #7:

What's your take on the housing part?

The Q2 GDP estimate has fallen off of a cliff.
Perhaps an Amusing twitter post can tell us why.





Current and Past GDPNow Commentaries - Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta

BearlySane88 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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This is one of those things they will say didn't happen until they are forced to say yeah it happened but not that much.

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read the article carefully. The click bait missed an important word, "of". So you can adjust your outrage downward a notch or two or Pac 10 can clarify the click bait link.

"The economists estimate unauthorized immigrant worker flows accounted for about 30% of employment growth, roughly 30% of home-price growth, and about 20% of rent growth in the average metropolitan area between March 2021 and March 2024.

They stress these estimates apply to the average metro area studied and do not suggest immigration was the sole driver of rising housing costs."

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I don't think anyone has argued that it's the sole driver, just a significant driver as pointed out by the stats you chose to quote.

You're telling me 30% cheaper homes and 20% cheaper rent wouldn't be a huge relief for Americans?

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who said that? You did. I'm saying 20 percent X "the Growth" <<<<<< 20pct. But go on with your analysis please.

cal83dls79 said:

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I don't think anyone has argued that it's the sole driver, just a significant driver as pointed out by the stats you chose to quote.

You're telling me 30% cheaper homes and 20% cheaper rent wouldn't be a huge relief for Americans?

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who said that? You did. I'm saying 20 percent X "the Growth" <<<<<< 20pct. But go on with your analysis please.

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Correct.

Never mind that the growth data is terribly skewed due to unauthorized immigrants RENTING at a far higher rate than actually qualifying for a mortgage and owning a home. The Dallas Fed research paper takes this into consideration with further quant analysis that the tabloid NY Post didnt bother to explore.

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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of course it didn't. You don't invest in RE do you?

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It's 100% fake. Disinformation should not be tolerated

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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of course it didn't. You don't invest in RE do you?

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It's 100% fake. Disinformation should not be tolerated

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it happened again, simple math blew up the lead, bummer

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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This is one of those things they will say didn't happen until they are forced to say yeah it happened but not that much.

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read the article carefully. The click bait missed an important word, "of". So you can adjust your outrage downward a notch or two or Pac 10 can clarify the click bait link.

"The economists estimate unauthorized immigrant worker flows accounted for about 30% of employment growth, roughly 30% of home-price growth, and about 20% of rent growth in the average metropolitan area between March 2021 and March 2024.

They stress these estimates apply to the average metro area studied and do not suggest immigration was the sole driver of rising housing costs."

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I don't think anyone has argued that it's the sole driver, just a significant driver as pointed out by the stats you chose to quote.

You're telling me 30% cheaper homes and 20% cheaper rent wouldn't be a huge relief for Americans?

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who said that? You did. I'm saying 20 percent X "the Growth" <<<<<< 20pct. But go on with your analysis please.

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They had to backtrack off the dishonest headline. So they fall back on a dishonest interpretation of the stats. They are now looking to move on to the next topic ripe for misleading low information voters.

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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This is one of those things they will say didn't happen until they are forced to say yeah it happened but not that much.

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read the article carefully. The click bait missed an important word, "of". So you can adjust your outrage downward a notch or two or Pac 10 can clarify the click bait link.

"The economists estimate unauthorized immigrant worker flows accounted for about 30% of employment growth, roughly 30% of home-price growth, and about 20% of rent growth in the average metropolitan area between March 2021 and March 2024.

They stress these estimates apply to the average metro area studied and do not suggest immigration was the sole driver of rising housing costs."

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I don't think anyone has argued that it's the sole driver, just a significant driver as pointed out by the stats you chose to quote.

You're telling me 30% cheaper homes and 20% cheaper rent wouldn't be a huge relief for Americans?

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who said that? You did. I'm saying 20 percent X "the Growth" <<<<<< 20pct. But go on with your analysis please.

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They had to backtrack off the dishonest headline. So they fall back on a dishonest interpretation of the stats. They are now looking to move on to the next topic ripe for misleading low information voters.

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The numbers were incoherent and should be treated like weekly garbage pickups (disposed of).

VOTE BLUE

NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON ANYONE ON THIS BOARD

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BearlySane88 said:

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Former President Biden’s illegal immigration surge led to a 30% rise in home prices and a 20% rise in rents, per NYP.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 5, 2026

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This is one of those things they will say didn't happen until they are forced to say yeah it happened but not that much.

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read the article carefully. The click bait missed an important word, "of". So you can adjust your outrage downward a notch or two or Pac 10 can clarify the click bait link.

"The economists estimate unauthorized immigrant worker flows accounted for about 30% of employment growth, roughly 30% of home-price growth, and about 20% of rent growth in the average metropolitan area between March 2021 and March 2024.

They stress these estimates apply to the average metro area studied and do not suggest immigration was the sole driver of rising housing costs."

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I don't think anyone has argued that it's the sole driver, just a significant driver as pointed out by the stats you chose to quote.

You're telling me 30% cheaper homes and 20% cheaper rent wouldn't be a huge relief for Americans?

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who said that? You did. I'm saying 20 percent X "the Growth" <<<<<< 20pct. But go on with your analysis please.

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They had to backtrack off the dishonest headline. So they fall back on a dishonest interpretation of the stats. They are now looking to move on to the next topic ripe for misleading low information voters.

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The numbers were incoherent and should be treated like weekly garbage pickups (disposed of).

VOTE BLUE

NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON ANYONE ON THIS BOARD

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Please explain how so?

SBGold said:

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You're telling me 30% cheaper homes and 20% cheaper rent wouldn't be a huge relief for Americans?

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who said that? You did. I'm saying 20 percent X "the Growth" <<<<<< 20pct. But go on with your analysis please.

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They had to backtrack off the dishonest headline. So they fall back on a dishonest interpretation of the stats. They are now looking to move on to the next topic ripe for misleading low information voters.

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The numbers were incoherent and should be treated like weekly garbage pickups (disposed of).

VOTE BLUE

NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON ANYONE ON THIS BOARD

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The NY Post is nothing more than click-bait garbage.
The headline had no basis in reality.

I wish that Cal alums wouldn't be so gullible.
It clogs up the forum with misinformation and fake news.

From day one, President Trump and I have said this very thing. Stopping the flood of illegal migrants into this country will bring down home prices and make housing affordable again for young Americans who are trying to start a family.

Despite the left’s incessant whining,… https://t.co/WMhTY8ctWA

— JD Vance (@JDVance) July 7, 2026

BearlySane88 said:

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From day one, President Trump and I have said this very thing. Stopping the flood of illegal migrants into this country will bring down home prices and make housing affordable again for young Americans who are trying to start a family.

Despite the left’s incessant whining,… https://t.co/WMhTY8ctWA

— JD Vance (@JDVance) July 7, 2026

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reposting misleading stuff again. So if housing affordability is so important why kill the housing affordability bill that both houses support? Oh I know why. Because trump is a baby.

Here comes the flood of crap that 09 predicted would follow once they realized the dumb mistake and they all fell for it. 6 stars for bad math in the Econ discussion is not good.

More often than not, the ignore feature works fairly well.
But every now and then I get exposed to posts like the one you have copied and replied to.

A "6-star" post of pure basic math failure.
Hard to believe these are Cal alums.

You cannot flood local housing markets with millions of people and expect prices not to rise.

Now the Fed is confirming what common sense already told us: Open borders make the American Dream more expensive. https://t.co/5oiML1Uery

— Rand Paul (@RandPaul) July 7, 2026

cal83dls79 said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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From day one, President Trump and I have said this very thing. Stopping the flood of illegal migrants into this country will bring down home prices and make housing affordable again for young Americans who are trying to start a family.

Despite the left’s incessant whining,… https://t.co/WMhTY8ctWA

— JD Vance (@JDVance) July 7, 2026

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reposting misleading stuff again. So if housing affordability is so important why kill the housing affordability bill that both houses support? Oh I know why. Because trump is a baby.

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He didn't kill it. Please keep the discussions truthful.