Virginia Tech

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annarborbear
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I like Puff better as a back-up this year instead of as a starter. 1-4 shooting and 3 TO's.
HoopDreams
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kc1121 said:

Suffren killed them with the mid range game during that run

We need to defend her mid-range and rely on our big to rim protect if she drives all the way to the rack as her mid range is the most effective offense from either team in a defensive slug fest
Woodacre
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I would guess 1800-2200 in attendance
Woodacre
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#1 is a volume shooter. And misser. 4-18 against Stanford. Let her shoot!
GATC
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Horrible 3rd foul in Sakima. Terrible call. This on really hurts
kc1121
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Unfortunately, a few of those Suffren baskets were with Walker on the bench with 2 fouls. No rim protection with Ojukwu and Langarita in there

Now Ojukwu has 3 fouls also
annarborbear
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We are missing Barnes in this one. We could use her size instead of going with a four-guard line-up.
kc1121
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43-44 headed to the 4th.. hear we go
ncbears
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After three, Cal is 1-13 from deep and VT is 0-3.
Amazing.
blungld
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1-13 on 3s is killing us. Can't lose this one at home.
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GATC
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Puff playing great the last 4 minutes of the 3rd quarter. Great drive, great assist and now a great offensive rebound. Down 1 going into the 4th.
ncbears
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VT with very very tight defense. Cal just can't get shots up.
And Cal is losing touch - VT 55 Cal 47 - as Walker fouls out.
ncbears
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and now Sheppard fouls out.
blungld
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Disappointed to see Bears play with so little poise at home.
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Woodacre
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Lulu just can't get loose. #12 Suffren is really tough on her, but she does have 4 fouls
gwashburn14
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19 turnovers and seven missed free throws. Can't do that against a high-quality opponent. Too many unforced errors.
blungld
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A shame. This might be the loss that keeps us out. Very winnable but didn't play with composure.
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Woodacre
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Ouch. Well, Cal was due for a stinker. Not the end of the season by any means.
annarborbear
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I'd give credit to Virginia Tech also. They played strong defense throughout the game. And they knew our tendencies.
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kc1121
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Gotta give VT some credit there. They had a game plan on both sides of ball and stuck to it.Well balanced team, it wasn't even the 2 players that I thought might beat us. Suffren was averaging 8.7 and had 19
Finnish Oski
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That was not a fun game to watch. Turnovers, fouls aplenty, missed free throws, no three-point shooting. Good crowd but could never really get into it. We looked tired and they have a stifling defense. No shame in losing this one but it was as anesthetically unpleasing a game as I've been to in a long while.
Four games to go and four wins to go. We move on. Go Bears!!!
stu
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It looked to me like VT was just too quick for us. Especially Suffren, who on defense completely smothered Lulu and on offense drove at will around anyone we put on her. VT was also rough, like football rough, and didn't get called for it much. I was surprised we were actually ahead in the 4th quarter but we eventually ran out of gas and fouls.

Almost till the end Naya was our only player who had scored double figures. Good to see Puff hit a few threes, we'll need that.

Sakima spent a lot of time on the bench in the 1st half, when she didn't have many fouls. Anyone know why? She didn't look ill or injured.

It looked to me like we had a lot of turnovers on passes into a post who was well covered by the time the pass arrived. Hope we work on that.

Woodacre
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Sakima had 2 fouls in the first half and no coach wants a player with 3 in the 1st. (Note:,WNBA is also a 40 minute game and the players are gone on their 6th, not the 5th). Also, Sakima was in when their tallest players were in, and Naya subbed in when VT went smaller
kc1121
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Has Samaki Walker been at other games? Don't recall them showing him before.
gljone
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Cal's offense was just disjointed. Forcing passes into the paint when the play is not there...drives where the driver stops and there's no outlet. Offensive fouls just trying to get position. Zero flow.

Tough to score when all the guards struggle. Tough to score when you have 22 damned TOs.

VA Tech is a very solid team and they deserved this game. They were the better team.

Corrective measures? Well, it's pretty clear Cal's game plan is the entry pass to the post. It's also pretty clear the other team knows. So the defense sags. The second and third defenders should be guarding their players too, right? This is where Cal's players need to move without the ball and be relentless about it. No plays off. Spacing is an issue...but in order to gain spacing, you have to create that space. Staying static or not making decisive cuts makes it really difficult to score. Passing the ball around the perimeters looks like you're playing offense but unless it's pass and move, it's wasted energy.

Too many times, the Bears are static. Waiting for someone else to do something. That ain't gonna work. So then it's a drive where there's already 2 or 3 defenders...and again if no other players move when the drive is in progress, you're doomed to fail.

It's also very clear that the other team is going to attack Lulu. She's just not quick enough. Unless she has an equal offensive game, it's pretty tough.

Bright spot was I thought Grace played well in her minutes. She looked like she could stay with the VA Tech guards and made a nice cut for a layup. Since Lola left the game with another apparent leg issue, does this open the door?

Now it's time to go to FLA and take both games. Cannot afford a split.





HoopDreams
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like our men's team, VT hedged every time Lulu touched the ball taking away her three and making it more difficult to drive. She made some nice passes into the post, but as others have said that strategy became too turnover prone

for many seasons Cal has gone into the post a ton, and it's been successful when the ball gets there, but also results in lots of turnovers

Not sure the risk/reward is there, but this team has limited shooters so it's probably the best strategy for this team

The wild card has been Giselle. She has been the X factor that teams couldn't defend, but VT defended her well

So with Lulu and Maul limited we don't have enough offense to make it up

Credit VT for one of the best defenses we faced
Shocky1
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virginia tech hokies 68
california golden bears 56

the better coached team won this afternoon, the virginia tech head had a 2 prong strategy to winning the game: run lulu off the 3 line (twidale wuz 0-5 on 3 pointers) & get sakima in foul trouble (sakima fouled out in only 14 minutes)

the cal head coach watched from further afar as the bears committed 22 turnovers (mostly on ill advised entry passes into a well schemed double & triple hokies collapsing d coverage) & continuing to FAIL to find minutes for the nightmare mismatch 4 naya ojuwku (shocky's favorite college basketball player) who despite being played outta position at the 5 (she lacks the height/length to compete with premiere acc posts) still managed to score 11 points on an efficient 4 of 5 field goals in only 17 minutes when she should be playing 30+ minutes every game at the 4


sigh, this is a poorly coached team

but even worser is today's attendance of an abysmal 2444 at a time when the valkyries averaged 18,064 per game across the bay with creative imaginative marketing

FIRE JENNIFER SIMON-O'NEIL#

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pearbear
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Staff
We're in LA.

It was lovely to see you. So glad you're well.
CalFanatic
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That sequence in the 4th quarter when Sheppherd was fouled and the layup rolled off, then she missed both free throws, and Virginia Tech came down and scored completely sucked the oxygen out of the room. You could see a potentially 51-50 game suddenly turn into a 6 point deficit. I turned to my friend and said, "Well… uh, this doesn't feel good."


gljone
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HoopDreams said:

like our men's team, VT hedged every time Lulu touched the ball taking away her three and making it more difficult to drive. She made some nice passes into the post, but as others have said that strategy became too turnover prone

for many seasons Cal has gone into the post a ton, and it's been successful when the ball gets there, but also results in lots of turnovers

Not sure the risk/reward is there, but this team has limited shooters so it's probably the best strategy for this team

The wild card has been Giselle. She has been the X factor that teams couldn't defend, but VT defended her well

So with Lulu and Maul limited we don't have enough offense to make it up

Credit VT for one of the best defenses we faced


All valid points and yes, VA Tech is very good. I guess my point is there needs to be better judgement when to enter the ball into the post. If the post has the defender sealed? Or if it's a 1-1 matchup? Sure.

But when the double or triple team is already there? There has to be a secondary option if the action isn't there.

Now...when the Bears did get the ball to Sakima or Naya 'on time' and with them in good position, they killed it - look at their efficiency today! But too many times it's "let's just throw it in there and hope for the best" and it was the difference could have been a two possession game at the end...then at least you have a chance with a score, a stop and a score.
HoopDreams
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Don't misunderstand my point. I agree we too often make extremely risky passes into the post, especially when doubled (or even tripled) and/or when a player stares down our post signaling to the defense where the ball is going

My point is our shooting isn't probably good enough to score enough points without significant post scoring (we are different than last season's team) … and Walker and Naya are strong post scorers





gljone said:

HoopDreams said:

like our men's team, VT hedged every time Lulu touched the ball taking away her three and making it more difficult to drive. She made some nice passes into the post, but as others have said that strategy became too turnover prone

for many seasons Cal has gone into the post a ton, and it's been successful when the ball gets there, but also results in lots of turnovers

Not sure the risk/reward is there, but this team has limited shooters so it's probably the best strategy for this team

The wild card has been Giselle. She has been the X factor that teams couldn't defend, but VT defended her well

So with Lulu and Maul limited we don't have enough offense to make it up

Credit VT for one of the best defenses we faced


All valid points and yes, VA Tech is very good. I guess my point is there needs to be better judgement when to enter the ball into the post. If the post has the defender sealed? Or if it's a 1-1 matchup? Sure.

But when the double or triple team is already there? There has to be a secondary option if the action isn't there.

Now...when the Bears did get the ball to Sakima or Naya 'on time' and with them in good position, they killed it - look at their efficiency today! But too many times it's "let's just throw it in there and hope for the best" and it was the difference could have been a two possession game at the end...then at least you have a chance with a score, a stop and a score.
gljone
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HoopDreams said:

Don't misunderstand my point. I agree we too often make extremely risky passes into the post, especially when doubled (or even tripled) and/or when a player stares down our post signaling to the defense where the ball is going

My point is our shooting isn't probably good enough to score enough points without significant post scoring (we are different than last season's team) … and Walker and Naya are strong post scorers





gljone said:

HoopDreams said:

like our men's team, VT hedged every time Lulu touched the ball taking away her three and making it more difficult to drive. She made some nice passes into the post, but as others have said that strategy became too turnover prone

for many seasons Cal has gone into the post a ton, and it's been successful when the ball gets there, but also results in lots of turnovers

Not sure the risk/reward is there, but this team has limited shooters so it's probably the best strategy for this team

The wild card has been Giselle. She has been the X factor that teams couldn't defend, but VT defended her well

So with Lulu and Maul limited we don't have enough offense to make it up

Credit VT for one of the best defenses we faced


All valid points and yes, VA Tech is very good. I guess my point is there needs to be better judgement when to enter the ball into the post. If the post has the defender sealed? Or if it's a 1-1 matchup? Sure.

But when the double or triple team is already there? There has to be a secondary option if the action isn't there.

Now...when the Bears did get the ball to Sakima or Naya 'on time' and with them in good position, they killed it - look at their efficiency today! But too many times it's "let's just throw it in there and hope for the best" and it was the difference could have been a two possession game at the end...then at least you have a chance with a score, a stop and a score.



I think we're on the same page. You're right - this team doesn't have the firepower. I guess that makes it that much more difficult to mask the mistakes. This team has to fight and claw a lot more than last season's team.

If asked if the Bears would be in this position this late in the season where they kind of control their path forward, I would have doubted that.

Now?

They have an opportunity and I really hope they do take advantage.

stu
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HoopDreams said:

Don't misunderstand my point. I agree we too often make extremely risky passes into the post, especially when doubled (or even tripled) and/or when a player stares down our post signaling to the defense where the ball is going

I also think it's timing. I've seen too many late passes where the post had been open but the defense had adjusted by the time the ball was passed.

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My point is our shooting isn't probably good enough to score enough points without significant post scoring (we are different than last season's team) … and Walker and Naya are strong post scorers

We have enough players who can shoot but they need a little space and time. VT's defense was good enough to deny that.
GATC
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CalFanatic said:

That sequence in the 4th quarter when Sheppherd was fouled and the layup rolled off, then she missed both free throws, and Virginia Tech came down and scored completely sucked the oxygen out of the room. You could see a potentially 51-50 game suddenly turn into a 6 point deficit. I turned to my friend and said, "Well… uh, this doesn't feel good."



. Exactly. We had a fighting chance until then.
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