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concordtom said:

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RIP.

Jesse Jackson had Progressive Supranuclear Palsy or PSP, a relatively rare and often misdiagnosed neural degenerative disease. There is no cure for PSP, and once diagnosed, the typical lifespan of a patient is less than 5 years. I am very familiar with this disease having had a very close relative recently struck with it.

https://www.apdaparkinson.org/article/understanding-psp-in-light-of-jesse-jacksons-diagnosis/

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PSP vs. PD
While there are some similarities between Parkinson's disease (PD) and PSP, they are distinct conditions with distinct symptoms, pathologies and rates of decline. PSP is a much less common diagnosis than PD. Both diseases can start with slowness of movement and stiffness. However, people with PSP tend not to have the classic rest tremor that can be very characteristic of PD and people with PSP often develop specific eye movement abnormalities that people with PD do not have. In addition, people with PSP tend not to respond to Parkinson's medications as well as people with PD.

One of the hallmarks of PSP is early, unprovoked falls. People with PSP often retropulse or fall backward without the ability to catch themselves. Poor balance and falling in PD on the other hand, typically occurs in more advanced stages.

Both diseases show neurodegeneration, or nerve cell death, in specific brain cells involved in motor control. However, whereas the protein alpha-synuclein tends to accumulate in the brains of people with PD, the protein tau is present in the brains of people with PSP.

Unfortunately, in addition to the fact that PSP typically shows a more limited response to medications, it also tends to progress more quickly.



Linda Ronstadt has Progressive Supranuclear Palsy. That's what forced her to retire from performing. One of the great voices in American pop music.


Sad. PSP also affects the voice, she was apparently no longer able to sing just one year after her diagnosis. More importantly, the parasympathetic system that allows you to swallow properly is also affected. PSP patients in more advanced stages can no longer swallow water or eat solid food, they need thickeners in their liquids and will eat mostly mashed foods or thick soups. A liquid will go right through their trachea and into their lungs.

Dudley Moore also had PSP, in the early stages people thought he was just drunk or tipsy, as it affects your gait and makes you look groggy.


I've been thinking lately that euthanasia (or suicide) isn't the worst thing in the world. I've put down two dogs, and it ducks, but….
As I've reported, I'm caring for my mom in the early stages of Alzheimer's and it eventually gets to can't talk, can't toilet, can't bathe….. worse than where my dogs were at.

It's makes you wonder.


You wouldn't euthanize a baby because it can't talk, toilet or bathe...

It would have to be a lot further than that before you even start thinking about euthanasia. The only case this subject could come out in a family that cares about their elders is that if the person in question was suffering from tremendous pain that is only going to get worse, not because a son is inconvenienced because his parent can't bathe by himself.
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Eric Dane dies of ALS




This is Eric Dane on the Today show in June 2024.



He was diagnosed with ALS 10 months after that interview.

And he died 10 months later.

Netflix has a show called Famous Last Words where they interview a famous people (likely famous people who are going to die) and lock the interview in a vault to be released the day after they die. Famous Last Words premiered last year with Jane Goodall.




Also, turns out Eric Dane is longtime friends with Roxy Bernstein.

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concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

HearstMining said:

Cal88 said:

RIP.

Jesse Jackson had Progressive Supranuclear Palsy or PSP, a relatively rare and often misdiagnosed neural degenerative disease. There is no cure for PSP, and once diagnosed, the typical lifespan of a patient is less than 5 years. I am very familiar with this disease having had a very close relative recently struck with it.

https://www.apdaparkinson.org/article/understanding-psp-in-light-of-jesse-jacksons-diagnosis/

Quote:

PSP vs. PD
While there are some similarities between Parkinson's disease (PD) and PSP, they are distinct conditions with distinct symptoms, pathologies and rates of decline. PSP is a much less common diagnosis than PD. Both diseases can start with slowness of movement and stiffness. However, people with PSP tend not to have the classic rest tremor that can be very characteristic of PD and people with PSP often develop specific eye movement abnormalities that people with PD do not have. In addition, people with PSP tend not to respond to Parkinson's medications as well as people with PD.

One of the hallmarks of PSP is early, unprovoked falls. People with PSP often retropulse or fall backward without the ability to catch themselves. Poor balance and falling in PD on the other hand, typically occurs in more advanced stages.

Both diseases show neurodegeneration, or nerve cell death, in specific brain cells involved in motor control. However, whereas the protein alpha-synuclein tends to accumulate in the brains of people with PD, the protein tau is present in the brains of people with PSP.

Unfortunately, in addition to the fact that PSP typically shows a more limited response to medications, it also tends to progress more quickly.



Linda Ronstadt has Progressive Supranuclear Palsy. That's what forced her to retire from performing. One of the great voices in American pop music.


Sad. PSP also affects the voice, she was apparently no longer able to sing just one year after her diagnosis. More importantly, the parasympathetic system that allows you to swallow properly is also affected. PSP patients in more advanced stages can no longer swallow water or eat solid food, they need thickeners in their liquids and will eat mostly mashed foods or thick soups. A liquid will go right through their trachea and into their lungs.

Dudley Moore also had PSP, in the early stages people thought he was just drunk or tipsy, as it affects your gait and makes you look groggy.


I've been thinking lately that euthanasia (or suicide) isn't the worst thing in the world. I've put down two dogs, and it ducks, but….
As I've reported, I'm caring for my mom in the early stages of Alzheimer's and it eventually gets to can't talk, can't toilet, can't bathe….. worse than where my dogs were at.

It's makes you wonder.


Days after my dad turned 97, he fell and broke his left arm and left leg.

He was in the hospital for 4 days.

But when you don't have the use of your left arm and left leg, you are essentially paralyzed. You don't have much use for your body. And when you are dependent on base Kaiser insurance, they don't give you the best treatment. They give you the bare minimum.

And over the weeks, he began to deteriorate. He ended up going to a rehab facility and sharing a room with somebody 50 years younger who liked to listen to rap music. He started mentally checking out and started babbling. And stopped eating.

Then one day, after 2-1/2 weeks, we were told that he was dying and that he would go home for hospice care.

This was a few months after Jimmy Carter went into hospice care. So I assumed my dad would be in hospice care for months.

He came home on a Friday. afternoon.

The hospice nurse treated him and left behind morphine so that -- without saying it -- my mom could ease him into death by giving him a higher and higher dosage. But my mom really struggled to do that. And I didn't want to do that.

By Sunday night, my dad was screaming at the top of his lungs "I want to die! I want to die!" I thought since he has the stamina to scream, he wasn't close to dying.

On Monday morning, the hospice nurse essentially administered morphine in a way (I guess) that eased him into death. His body didn't want to die, but he wanted to die. (He died 1 month and 1 week after falling.)

I didn't want my dad to die, either. But in retrospect, after hearing about kids taking care of their nearly dead parents for years and years, maybe this was a good thing. My dad always wanted to die in his home. And he got his wish.

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Thanks for sharing that. My parents lived to be 88 and 96 and had tough outs. This article has a lot of meaning for me:

Source: Wilmington Star-News Sisters Face Death With Dignity and Reverence https://share.google/IR21QkoEWZygYVaQO

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Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

HearstMining said:

Cal88 said:

RIP.

Jesse Jackson had Progressive Supranuclear Palsy or PSP, a relatively rare and often misdiagnosed neural degenerative disease. There is no cure for PSP, and once diagnosed, the typical lifespan of a patient is less than 5 years. I am very familiar with this disease having had a very close relative recently struck with it.

https://www.apdaparkinson.org/article/understanding-psp-in-light-of-jesse-jacksons-diagnosis/

Quote:

PSP vs. PD
While there are some similarities between Parkinson's disease (PD) and PSP, they are distinct conditions with distinct symptoms, pathologies and rates of decline. PSP is a much less common diagnosis than PD. Both diseases can start with slowness of movement and stiffness. However, people with PSP tend not to have the classic rest tremor that can be very characteristic of PD and people with PSP often develop specific eye movement abnormalities that people with PD do not have. In addition, people with PSP tend not to respond to Parkinson's medications as well as people with PD.

One of the hallmarks of PSP is early, unprovoked falls. People with PSP often retropulse or fall backward without the ability to catch themselves. Poor balance and falling in PD on the other hand, typically occurs in more advanced stages.

Both diseases show neurodegeneration, or nerve cell death, in specific brain cells involved in motor control. However, whereas the protein alpha-synuclein tends to accumulate in the brains of people with PD, the protein tau is present in the brains of people with PSP.

Unfortunately, in addition to the fact that PSP typically shows a more limited response to medications, it also tends to progress more quickly.



Linda Ronstadt has Progressive Supranuclear Palsy. That's what forced her to retire from performing. One of the great voices in American pop music.


Sad. PSP also affects the voice, she was apparently no longer able to sing just one year after her diagnosis. More importantly, the parasympathetic system that allows you to swallow properly is also affected. PSP patients in more advanced stages can no longer swallow water or eat solid food, they need thickeners in their liquids and will eat mostly mashed foods or thick soups. A liquid will go right through their trachea and into their lungs.

Dudley Moore also had PSP, in the early stages people thought he was just drunk or tipsy, as it affects your gait and makes you look groggy.


I've been thinking lately that euthanasia (or suicide) isn't the worst thing in the world. I've put down two dogs, and it ducks, but….
As I've reported, I'm caring for my mom in the early stages of Alzheimer's and it eventually gets to can't talk, can't toilet, can't bathe….. worse than where my dogs were at.

It's makes you wonder.


You wouldn't euthanize a baby because it can't talk, toilet or bathe...

It would have to be a lot further than that before you even start thinking about euthanasia. The only case this subject could come out in a family that cares about their elders is that if the person in question was suffering from tremendous pain that is only going to get worse, not because a son is inconvenienced because his parent can't bathe by himself.


Ha.
Your phraseology there is just a tad offensive - were it not for being a garbage hole anonymous chat board.
Not that I typed anything delicate in a massively complex and nuanced issue.

An "inconvenienced" son?
Come talk to me and tell me what you think you might do for yourself (for your kids, rather - if you have any) after you've walked a mile in the shoes I'm lacing up for 1, 2, 5, 10 years. Then transfer me your bank account, because full care can cost 30-40k/month.

I'd rather my kids have the money, and the freedom in their life.

Right now, all is good.
The road ahead could get interesting. Stay tuned.

Anyways, the concept exists, I'm just entering this chapter. I'm sure I'll learn a few things.

Sniping is unkind.
And "tad" was inaccurate.
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okaydo said:




concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

HearstMining said:

Cal88 said:

RIP.

Jesse Jackson had Progressive Supranuclear Palsy or PSP, a relatively rare and often misdiagnosed neural degenerative disease. There is no cure for PSP, and once diagnosed, the typical lifespan of a patient is less than 5 years. I am very familiar with this disease having had a very close relative recently struck with it.

https://www.apdaparkinson.org/article/understanding-psp-in-light-of-jesse-jacksons-diagnosis/

Quote:

PSP vs. PD
While there are some similarities between Parkinson's disease (PD) and PSP, they are distinct conditions with distinct symptoms, pathologies and rates of decline. PSP is a much less common diagnosis than PD. Both diseases can start with slowness of movement and stiffness. However, people with PSP tend not to have the classic rest tremor that can be very characteristic of PD and people with PSP often develop specific eye movement abnormalities that people with PD do not have. In addition, people with PSP tend not to respond to Parkinson's medications as well as people with PD.

One of the hallmarks of PSP is early, unprovoked falls. People with PSP often retropulse or fall backward without the ability to catch themselves. Poor balance and falling in PD on the other hand, typically occurs in more advanced stages.

Both diseases show neurodegeneration, or nerve cell death, in specific brain cells involved in motor control. However, whereas the protein alpha-synuclein tends to accumulate in the brains of people with PD, the protein tau is present in the brains of people with PSP.

Unfortunately, in addition to the fact that PSP typically shows a more limited response to medications, it also tends to progress more quickly.



Linda Ronstadt has Progressive Supranuclear Palsy. That's what forced her to retire from performing. One of the great voices in American pop music.


Sad. PSP also affects the voice, she was apparently no longer able to sing just one year after her diagnosis. More importantly, the parasympathetic system that allows you to swallow properly is also affected. PSP patients in more advanced stages can no longer swallow water or eat solid food, they need thickeners in their liquids and will eat mostly mashed foods or thick soups. A liquid will go right through their trachea and into their lungs.

Dudley Moore also had PSP, in the early stages people thought he was just drunk or tipsy, as it affects your gait and makes you look groggy.


I've been thinking lately that euthanasia (or suicide) isn't the worst thing in the world. I've put down two dogs, and it ducks, but….
As I've reported, I'm caring for my mom in the early stages of Alzheimer's and it eventually gets to can't talk, can't toilet, can't bathe….. worse than where my dogs were at.

It's makes you wonder.


Days after my dad turned 97, he fell and broke his left arm and left leg.

He was in the hospital for 4 days.

But when you don't have the use of your left arm and left leg, you are essentially paralyzed. You don't have much use for your body. And when you are dependent on base Kaiser insurance, they don't give you the best treatment. They give you the bare minimum.

And over the weeks, he began to deteriorate. He ended up going to a rehab facility and sharing a room with somebody 50 years younger who liked to listen to rap music. He started mentally checking out and started babbling. And stopped eating.

Then one day, after 2-1/2 weeks, we were told that he was dying and that he would go home for hospice care.

This was a few months after Jimmy Carter went into hospice care. So I assumed my dad would be in hospice care for months.

He came home on a Friday. afternoon.

The hospice nurse treated him and left behind morphine so that -- without saying it -- my mom could ease him into death by giving him a higher and higher dosage. But my mom really struggled to do that. And I didn't want to do that.

By Sunday night, my dad was screaming at the top of his lungs "I want to die! I want to die!" I thought since he has the stamina to scream, he wasn't close to dying.

On Monday morning, the hospice nurse essentially administered morphine in a way (I guess) that eased him into death. His body didn't want to die, but he wanted to die. (He died 1 month and 1 week after falling.)

I didn't want my dad to die, either. But in retrospect, after hearing about kids taking care of their nearly dead parents for years and years, maybe this was a good thing. My dad always wanted to die in his home. And he got his wish.




Very touching!!

I've been getting in touch with this process of dying in recent years, and I'll get in much more touch with it in the coming years.
I've got a huge family. So many aunts and uncles, 3 of 4 parents still with me. Older step siblings…. Every single one of them I'm going to watch decline and die, and then it will be my turn.

I've been with 3 people now at the transition. And 3 younger close members died in their 40's of cancer.

I think people who work in hospitals are light years ahead of me.
Eventually, everyone goes.

That's really touching about your father. Thank you for sharing your personal experience.

I wasn't saying I'd put my mom down. My mom has suggested it for herself. And I was thinking about myself, if I were doomed and no longer enjoying.

Mom and I are thankful having a great time together, every day! These past 3 months have changed our ending narrative significantly!!! I'm very thankful. We laugh. I get to help her now. I've been waiting for the chance!!
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okaydo said:




concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

HearstMining said:

Cal88 said:

RIP.

Jesse Jackson had Progressive Supranuclear Palsy or PSP, a relatively rare and often misdiagnosed neural degenerative disease. There is no cure for PSP, and once diagnosed, the typical lifespan of a patient is less than 5 years. I am very familiar with this disease having had a very close relative recently struck with it.

https://www.apdaparkinson.org/article/understanding-psp-in-light-of-jesse-jacksons-diagnosis/

Quote:

PSP vs. PD
While there are some similarities between Parkinson's disease (PD) and PSP, they are distinct conditions with distinct symptoms, pathologies and rates of decline. PSP is a much less common diagnosis than PD. Both diseases can start with slowness of movement and stiffness. However, people with PSP tend not to have the classic rest tremor that can be very characteristic of PD and people with PSP often develop specific eye movement abnormalities that people with PD do not have. In addition, people with PSP tend not to respond to Parkinson's medications as well as people with PD.

One of the hallmarks of PSP is early, unprovoked falls. People with PSP often retropulse or fall backward without the ability to catch themselves. Poor balance and falling in PD on the other hand, typically occurs in more advanced stages.

Both diseases show neurodegeneration, or nerve cell death, in specific brain cells involved in motor control. However, whereas the protein alpha-synuclein tends to accumulate in the brains of people with PD, the protein tau is present in the brains of people with PSP.

Unfortunately, in addition to the fact that PSP typically shows a more limited response to medications, it also tends to progress more quickly.



Linda Ronstadt has Progressive Supranuclear Palsy. That's what forced her to retire from performing. One of the great voices in American pop music.


Sad. PSP also affects the voice, she was apparently no longer able to sing just one year after her diagnosis. More importantly, the parasympathetic system that allows you to swallow properly is also affected. PSP patients in more advanced stages can no longer swallow water or eat solid food, they need thickeners in their liquids and will eat mostly mashed foods or thick soups. A liquid will go right through their trachea and into their lungs.

Dudley Moore also had PSP, in the early stages people thought he was just drunk or tipsy, as it affects your gait and makes you look groggy.


I've been thinking lately that euthanasia (or suicide) isn't the worst thing in the world. I've put down two dogs, and it ducks, but….
As I've reported, I'm caring for my mom in the early stages of Alzheimer's and it eventually gets to can't talk, can't toilet, can't bathe….. worse than where my dogs were at.

It's makes you wonder.


Days after my dad turned 97, he fell and broke his left arm and left leg.

He was in the hospital for 4 days.

But when you don't have the use of your left arm and left leg, you are essentially paralyzed. You don't have much use for your body. And when you are dependent on base Kaiser insurance, they don't give you the best treatment. They give you the bare minimum.

And over the weeks, he began to deteriorate. He ended up going to a rehab facility and sharing a room with somebody 50 years younger who liked to listen to rap music. He started mentally checking out and started babbling. And stopped eating.

Then one day, after 2-1/2 weeks, we were told that he was dying and that he would go home for hospice care.

This was a few months after Jimmy Carter went into hospice care. So I assumed my dad would be in hospice care for months.

He came home on a Friday. afternoon.

The hospice nurse treated him and left behind morphine so that -- without saying it -- my mom could ease him into death by giving him a higher and higher dosage. But my mom really struggled to do that. And I didn't want to do that.

By Sunday night, my dad was screaming at the top of his lungs "I want to die! I want to die!" I thought since he has the stamina to scream, he wasn't close to dying.

On Monday morning, the hospice nurse essentially administered morphine in a way (I guess) that eased him into death. His body didn't want to die, but he wanted to die. (He died 1 month and 1 week after falling.)

I didn't want my dad to die, either. But in retrospect, after hearing about kids taking care of their nearly dead parents for years and years, maybe this was a good thing. My dad always wanted to die in his home. And he got his wish.





Just to add to my story. The insurance gave him a regular medical bed that could go up and down. My dad was 6 feet. The bed was 6 feet. Without going into details, he basically suffered from being in bed all day. We tried to vary his life by putting him on his side or putting him in a wheelchair (but never on his stomach).

When he returned home for hospice care, they gave him a totally different bed with an air mattress that took pressure off his body. I wonder if he might have been able to recover if he had that bed in the first place.


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Well, now I'm curious.
What is different between air mattress and regular mattress?
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I can't tell if this is a serious question or not but an air mattress is a mattress filled with air.
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Self-inflicted gunshot wound
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Tragic anytime someone takes their own life.
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BearlySane88 said:

Tragic anytime someone takes their own life.


Not always true. I'm pretty sure they celebrated when Hitler took his.


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Give it a rest bro.

Did you make people post about it in the obituary thread too?
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Oh, don't you dare personally attack me.
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FYI:

When it comes to administering morphine in a hospital to suppress breating, there is usually an entire protocol of "other" drugs that must be administered first.

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If you're going to post a Nerds clip, post a good one
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DiabloWags said:

FYI:

When it comes to administering morphine in a hospital to suppress breating, there is usually an entire protocol of "other" drugs that must be administered first.



When my 93 year old grandfather presented at hospital with Parkinson's and pancreatic cancer and was jaundice, they sent him home and hospice showed up and gave my 28 year old half sister whatever meds that hastened his death within one week.
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Robert Carradine died by suicide in Los Angeles on February 23, 2026, at the age of 71, after battling bipolar disorder for two decades. His death was announced by his brother Keith.

He was the final child by father John of early Hollywood fame.


-wow, by suicide.
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concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

FYI:

When it comes to administering morphine in a hospital to suppress breating, there is usually an entire protocol of "other" drugs that must be administered first.



When my 93 year old grandfather presented at hospital with Parkinson's and pancreatic cancer and was jaundice, they sent him home and hospice showed up and gave my 28 year old half sister whatever meds that hastened his death within one week.


Yes, because that was not in a hospital environment where they could potentially be sued.

My 100 year old grandfather was in hospice care in Oregon for 6 weeks until he passed away and morphine was used.

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Wasn't that from the Long Riders?
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Wasn't that from the Long Riders?




Cast:

The Keaches:
James Keach as Jesse James
Stacy Keach as Frank James ( A Cal Bear

The Carradines:
David Carradine as Cole Younger
Keith Carradine as Jim Younger
Robert Carradine as Bob Younger

The Quaids:
Dennis Quaid as Ed Miller
Randy Quaid as Clell Miller

The Guests:
Christopher Guest as Charley Ford
Nicholas Guest as Robert Ford
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TY Thought so. One of my favorite movies back then.
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From 2017:
The Brutal Rise of El Mencho: Mexico's Next-Generation Narco https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/the-brutal-rise-of-el-mencho-196980/
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From 2017:
The Brutal Rise of El Mencho: Mexico's Next-Generation Narco https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/the-brutal-rise-of-el-mencho-196980/
That was a good read - lots of background info about a thug I'd never heard of until the last few days.
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The San Francisco connection was of particular interest.

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Katherine Short, the daughter of actor Martin Short, has died, ABC News has confirmed. She was 42.
https://abc7news.com/post/martin-shorts-daughter-katherine-short-dies-42/18645275/

* Martin Short has had more than his share of tragedy in his life.
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Wow, gunshot suicide.
That's so tragic.
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yeahbut, why for??
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Jeff Galloway has passed.

https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a70444018/jeff-galloway-dies-at-80/
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Galloway died from complications related to a stroke and brain bleeding. He was 80 years old.

Interesting that a guy devoted to fitness goes that way.

Cool story,
From Wikipedia:

Galloway and his Florida Track Club teammates, Shorter and Bacheler, made the 1972 U.S. Olympic team, Galloway in the 10K, Bacheler in the marathon, and Shorter in both events. The three spent two months in the mountains near Vail, Colorado, conditioning themselves for the Olympics. According to noted runner and journalist, Joe Henderson, Galloway "should have been an Olympic marathoner", but is sometimes said to have given up his shot at a spot in the longer event to help his friend, Bacheler, to make the 1972 team. On his official website, Galloway says, "my greatest thrill was pacing Jack through the marathon trial and then dropping back at the finish so that he could take the remaining spot on the marathon team." Bacheler had narrowly missed out qualifying in the 10,000m trials a week earlier. Galloway was an alternate for the marathon.
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Breaking up is hard to do, but it's final now. Neil Sedaka dead at 86.

Not my cup of tea, but he was clearly very talented and managed to stay relevant for many years after his contemporaries faded away.

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tnx, and sadly rich as sin when he kicked the bucket (2 kids)..
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0781226
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/neil-sedaka-net-worth-a-look-at-breaking-up-is-hard-to-do-singers-fortune-and-career-earnings-101772230378368.html
> Neil Sedaka, the legendary singer-songwriter who died at 86, built a $100 million fortune through decades of hit songs.
 
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