sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
It's been a long war, so I'm sure Ukraine is having issues with manpower and I'm not shocked if some of their recruitment/conscription efforts have gotten very aggressive.
I'm also quite sure that Russia does the same and more, so this doesn't make me want to leave the Ukrainians high and dry to be taken over.
What makes you so sure about something you have obviously never seriously researched?
The Russians "don't do the same", no footage, nothing even close to what you have from Ukraine, every day now scenes of press gangs going on a brutal man hunt. The Russians pay their volunteers well, provide them with extensive training, and don't put them in desperate situations, or have commissars who will shoot in the back those who hesitate to fight.
I can't believe that no footage has made it to Western outlets from the Russian side of the battle lines.
But honestly, I don't even need to prove this. Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of aggression. That's enough for me to oppose them.
Russians have had access to social media like Telegram, where most of the Ukraine footage comes from. There is lots of material from Russian about the Ukraine war, some even critical of Russian policies, but I've yet to see the kind of Ukrainian forced conscriptions that you see daily online.
The Kiev regime invaded eastern Ukraine in 2014, repressed the local rebellion with tanks, jets and machine gun firing troops. This is a British MSM report from 2014:
" We have always been at war with Eastasia."
George Orwell wrote that line in his famous novel, 1984, to describe how governments rewrite history in real time.
In the novel, yesterday's ally becomes today's enemy, and the past is simply edited to match the present. Newspapers are changed, records destroyed, and anything that contradicts the current narrative disappears into what Orwell called the memory hole.
The point Orwell was making was simple but chilling. If you control the past, you control how people understand the present. And if you control the present, you control the future.
Which brings us to
#Ukraine.
Here we are showing a video from 2014, when ITV News Europe Editor James Mates reported on a day of violence in the eastern Ukrainian city of Mariupol. It is unlikely ITV will be replaying this report anytime soon, because it complicates the very simple story we are now told about Ukraine's recent history.The war did not suddenly appear in 2022 out of nowhere. It began in 2014, after the overthrow of Ukraine's government amid Western-backed unrest, with US politicians like John McCain on the ground supporting opposition forces. What followed was eight years of civil war in Eastern Ukraine. Shelling, civilian deaths, and refugees fleeing Donetsk, Luhansk, and Mariupol were reported by Western media at the time.
This is not Russian propaganda. It is their footage. These are their reports. The truth is simple. The Ukrainian civil war ran for eight years. It ended on February 24th 2022, when Russia crossed the border and turned it into an international war.This is why old news reports matter. They are pieces of history that cannot easily be rewritten once people have seen them.
Orwell understood this perfectly.
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."
So when certain parts of history quietly disappear from the conversation, when timelines suddenly begin at convenient political moments, it is always worth paying attention.
Because the memory hole is not just a device in a novel.
It is how propaganda works."
