movielover said:

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FTR, three folks here appear White.

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Racism?

PAC-10-BEAR said:

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movielover said:

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FTR, three folks here appear White.

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Racism?

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For the PC crowd here.

Here's a much shorter video that concordtom should watch instead of whatever Klobuchar said.

Here's the parallels between Biden's persecution of January 6 protestors and Trump's deportation campaign. I harshly criticized how Biden stretched the definition of terrorism - and now.... via @mkibbe pic.twitter.com/dLAReXfc7a

— James Bovard (@JimBovard) January 29, 2026

Here's some more political satire that a certain poster will pretend not to understand

Democrats Responding to ICE 🧊 pic.twitter.com/7Fra3Xdb8m

— B L A K E L E Y™℠©® LLC (@_iamblakeley) January 24, 2026

The first photo is Liam Ramos last week when ICE kidnapped him after pre school.

The second photo is Liam Ramos after a few days in an ICE camp.

2025 was the deadliest year on record for ICE.

The conditions are appalling.

Liam’s health is deteriorating.

Let him go. pic.twitter.com/5pKbZqYT1S

— Kelly (@broadwaybabyto) January 29, 2026

Sadly there will be Trump supporters out there that will claim the second photo was staged.

They dont care about brown skinned children.

DiabloWags said:

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Sadly there will be Trump supporters out there that will claim the second photo was staged.

They dont care about brown skinned children.

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Sadly there will be jerks who accuse people of not caring about brown skinned children just because they question the portrayal of this boy, who was abandoned by his father and mother.

Since there were more shots fired at Pretti than holes in Pretti, I'm surprised the ICE officers didn't self cancel themselves:

" 9mm rounds hitting a street (concrete or asphalt) frequently ricochet, especially at shallow angles, rather than embedding. While they can shatter on impact, they often skip off hard, flat surfaces, with studies indicating significant, dangerous ricochet paths for 9mm bullets."
AI Overview

Aunburdened said:

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Here's some more political satire that a certain poster will pretend not to understand

Democrats Responding to ICE 🧊 pic.twitter.com/7Fra3Xdb8m

— B L A K E L E Y™℠©® LLC (@_iamblakeley) January 24, 2026

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That one was pretty funny.

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concordtom said:

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Republicans should listen to Amy.

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I don't have 15 minutes to waste on a woman who throws objects at her own staff. She's lucky there were no ICE agents present on the days she did that.

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Please. Who among us here has never thrown a stapler or a pair of scissors at some low-producing or annoying underling?

The Springsteen song about the ICE shootings in Minneapolis brought to mind some of the hurriedly written and released political songs of the past. Ohio (1970) was written by Neil Young, performed by CSN&Y and released a month after the shootings at Kent State.

Two years later Neil wrote a campaign song for George McGovern backed by the Stray Gators (who backed him on his Harvest album). He also stuck Graham Nash's name on it. I thought it was a good song and bought it.



*Back in those days, this is what you bought, a .45 rpm single:

bearister said:

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Since there were more shots fired at Pretti than holes in Pretti, I'm surprised the ICE officers didn't self cancel themselves:

" 9mm rounds hitting a street (concrete or asphalt) frequently ricochet, especially at shallow angles, rather than embedding. While they can shatter on impact, they often skip off hard, flat surfaces, with studies indicating significant, dangerous ricochet paths for 9mm bullets."
AI Overview

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When you're lined up like a FIRING SQUAD you don't have to worry about that as much.

What is 'AGITPROP'?

AGITATION PROPAGANGA

I appreciate the effort to engage.
1. I actually agree with much of what you write here. A pox on both parties; there is plenty of blame to be spread around. And yet, they said the border couldn't be closed, but since Trump came back in, border crossings have dropped dramatically to the point where that has nearly been achieved, even without finishing the wall. In addition to fewer illegal immigrants, this means greatly reduced drug and human trafficking. And if we actually held employers responsible for obeying employment laws, the numbers would be reduced even further. None of this is to preclude legal immigration. There's a process and people coming into this country should be vetted and admitted based on legitimate refugee status (not economic), the benefit they provide to the country and some family immigration. Is this not reasonable? Sadly, MAGA is the only political group that has accomplished anything on this front. Most leaders in the Dem party in particular have done everything possible to sabotage progress and many are unabashedly against any restriction on immigration whatsoever. Can we agree that this is insanity?

2. Basically agree. So why are people like Pretti preventing ICE from apprehending ALL illegals for deportation, even the violent criminals? Why do sanctuary cities protect them? Why are Walz and co refusing to cooperate with the Feds to deport illegal criminals from prisons? Fetterman has been quoted as saying that 67% of the illegals being rounded up by ICE are criminals. I don't know exactly how he defined that but I don't think it includes jaywalkers and people with speeding tickets. We have plenty of criminals already, we don't need more even some people think of them as "neighbors."

3. Having a heart for the individual is to your credit, but where are the limits? Despite some of the highest taxes in the country, CA has massive deficits and some of the highest poverty rates in the nation. Why? CA is a magnet for illegals because it pays. People respond to incentives. That doesn't make them evil, but it does mean that we have to be careful that we don't create a system that incentivzes people to come here without the ability to support themselves. 1.6-1.7 million illegals in CA receive free health care. They get EBT and qualify for all kinds of benefits including preferential admission and grants to our very own UC. The burden to the system of this generosity is staggering. In what universe does it make sense? Take away the benefits and millions of these people go home. Heartless? Hardly, they are no worse off than they were before, and if they are on government benefits, they are not adding to the system, they are detracting from it. Yes, but we need the labor illegals provide, you say. Really? If illegals left, wages would rise and Americans would take on many of these jobs. Isn't this what the Democratic party is all about? We have an overabundance of low-skilled workers already. Seasonal agricultural labor can be brought in on guest-worker program basis. It happens regionally in Mexico.

4. If illegals and other non-eligible voters are not voting, why are Democrats so violently opposed to ID verification, scrubbing the voters roles, any restrictions on mail-in ballots etc and why are systems like the CA DMV set up to allow voter registration without any verification of citizenship? If Dems have nothing to hide, why not increase confidence in the system and dispel the conspiracy theories by advocating for election systems that are provably fair and transparent?

Reasonable adults can disagree on some of the particulars but I think the vast majority of Americans want a secure border, they want criminal aliens to be sent home, and they want government aid to primarily go to American citizens. Both parties are part of the problem, but the leaders of your party and the radical left are opposed to all these things. That was my point.

ICE favorables by news platform in January:

X: 45/53 (-8)
TikTok: 24/72 (-48)
Facebook: 39/56 (-17)
YouTube: 35/63 (-28)
Instagram: 29/68 (-39)
Newspapers/news sites: 28/71 (-43)
All voters: 35/61 (-26)

So if you're wondering whether this place feels like a bubble...

— Lakshya Jain (@lxeagle17) January 29, 2026

Big C said:

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Aunburdened said:

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concordtom said:

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Republicans should listen to Amy.

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I don't have 15 minutes to waste on a woman who throws objects at her own staff. She's lucky there were no ICE agents present on the days she did that.

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Please. Who among us here has never thrown a stapler or a pair of scissors at some low-producing or annoying underling?

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I laughed.

Where's Bluesky?

bearister said:

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The Springsteen song about the ICE shootings in Minneapolis brought to mind some of the hurriedly written and released political songs of the past. Ohio (1970) was written by Neil Young, performed by CSN&Y and released a month after the shootings at Kent State.

Two years later Neil wrote a campaign song for George McGovern backed by the Stray Gators (who backed him on his Harvest album). He also stuck Graham Nash's name on it. I thought it was a good song and bought it.



*Back in those days, this is what you bought, a .45 rpm single:

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I'm surprised Springsteen found time to write a song in between cheating on the wife that he was cheating on his first wife with.

Bruce Springsteen Threatens To Keep Releasing Songs Until Deportations Stop https://t.co/rZfDnXoqgk pic.twitter.com/Mqgw3c7qHs

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) January 29, 2026

Far more important that Springsteen's latest piece of Dem worshipping celebrity washing piece of trash, here are all the Big Brother lists the government is maintaining.

🚨 I've obtained a list of secret watchlists the Department of Homeland Security uses to keep tabs on American citizenshttps://t.co/troIdu6Bds

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) January 28, 2026

MinotStateBeav said:

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Where's Bluesky?

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Not enough data available.

Students in San Leandro, CA did an Anti-ICE school walk out.

18% of the students are proficient in math.

42% of the students are proficient in reading.

The public school system is led by activists not educators.

It’s a disaster.pic.twitter.com/W2Du5qkHRk

— C3 (@C_3C_3) January 30, 2026

What a mess! The adults aren't any better!

Charlamagne tha God on the new video of Alex Pretti: “I don’t think it adds another layer at all. In fact, it makes the ICE agents look worse because we saw Alex Pretti get assaulted twice and not once did he reach for his gun. Can ICE agents say the same?” pic.twitter.com/jUTQLYyPN3

— Marco Foster (@MarcoFoster_) January 29, 2026

“As for Alex Pretti, I have never seen such a disgusting execution outside of the Taliban cutting off Americans’ heads”.

“Every other soldier I’ve spoken to about this has said the same thing. If we did half of what these agents did we would be rotting in Leavenworth…

— Prez (@PrezLives2022) January 30, 2026

Inside 5-year-old Liam Ramos’ classroom, his cubby and little hat — similar to the one worn the morning he was taken by ICE — remain untouched as a reminder of his presence, @lilialuciano reports. His classmates and teacher sent a heartfelt video message, blowing kisses and… pic.twitter.com/CH6NGZ5h6O

— CBS News (@CBSNews) January 29, 2026

^ Sounds like those kids won't be missing much education if they walk out for a day. Maybe the change of scenery will help refresh them for their return.

sycasey said:

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Inside 5-year-old Liam Ramos’ classroom, his cubby and little hat — similar to the one worn the morning he was taken by ICE — remain untouched as a reminder of his presence, @lilialuciano reports. His classmates and teacher sent a heartfelt video message, blowing kisses and… pic.twitter.com/CH6NGZ5h6O

— CBS News (@CBSNews) January 29, 2026

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Why didn’t you mention her when she died in 2023? pic.twitter.com/iB42IAllwX

— Apple Lamps (@lamps_apple) January 27, 2026

When and why did they change...

Joe Rogan just dropped a MOAB on the Democrat immigration narrative — playing a clip of Hillary Clinton from 2008 that OBLITERATES their current talking points.

As @joerogan pointed out, the policies Democrats now call President Trump a “Nazi” for enforcing were standard party… pic.twitter.com/1b10WNPNBP

— Overton (@overton_news) January 28, 2026

sycasey said:

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Charlamagne tha God on the new video of Alex Pretti: “I don’t think it adds another layer at all. In fact, it makes the ICE agents look worse because we saw Alex Pretti get assaulted twice and not once did he reach for his gun. Can ICE agents say the same?” pic.twitter.com/jUTQLYyPN3

— Marco Foster (@MarcoFoster_) January 29, 2026

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I like to poke fun at the left and the right. I’m not emotionally invested in politics but damn this is hilarious…
pic.twitter.com/xxIUzogogB

— Steve Byrne (@stevebyrnelive) January 29, 2026

DiabloWags said:

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Sadly there will be Trump supporters out there that will claim the second photo was staged.

They dont care about brown skinned children.

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I agree with this post.
But more so, the person could be from Sweden and if Trump or his Administration need that person be "bad" and it not reflect poorly on "their team", what you said applies all the same.

AunBurdened, who stole his screen name in a mock of AunBear, which has its own sick twist, keeps throwing up posts in disgust of "Democrats" is a great example of this partisan mentality.

bearister said:

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Since there were more shots fired at Pretti than holes in Pretti, I'm surprised the ICE officers didn't self cancel themselves:

" 9mm rounds hitting a street (concrete or asphalt) frequently ricochet, especially at shallow angles, rather than embedding. While they can shatter on impact, they often skip off hard, flat surfaces, with studies indicating significant, dangerous ricochet paths for 9mm bullets."
AI Overview

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In video games, the bullets just disappear after discharge. Kids that grow up on shooting games would not mentally have your point in their minds.

Zippergate said:

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I appreciate the effort to engage.
1. I actually agree with much of what you write here. A pox on both parties; there is plenty of blame to be spread around. And yet, they said the border couldn't be closed, but since Trump came back in, border crossings have dropped dramatically to the point where that has nearly been achieved, even without finishing the wall. In addition to fewer illegal immigrants, this means greatly reduced drug and human trafficking. And if we actually held employers responsible for obeying employment laws, the numbers would be reduced even further. None of this is to preclude legal immigration. There's a process and people coming into this country should be vetted and admitted based on legitimate refugee status (not economic), the benefit they provide to the country and some family immigration. Is this not reasonable? Sadly, MAGA is the only political group that has accomplished anything on this front. Most leaders in the Dem party in particular have done everything possible to sabotage progress and many are unabashedly against any restriction on immigration whatsoever. Can we agree that this is insanity?

2. Basically agree. So why are people like Pretti preventing ICE from apprehending ALL illegals for deportation, even the violent criminals? Why do sanctuary cities protect them? Why are Walz and co refusing to cooperate with the Feds to deport illegal criminals from prisons? Fetterman has been quoted as saying that 67% of the illegals being rounded up by ICE are criminals. I don't know exactly how he defined that but I don't think it includes jaywalkers and people with speeding tickets. We have plenty of criminals already, we don't need more even some people think of them as "neighbors."

3. Having a heart for the individual is to your credit, but where are the limits? Despite some of the highest taxes in the country, CA has massive deficits and some of the highest poverty rates in the nation. Why? CA is a magnet for illegals because it pays. People respond to incentives. That doesn't make them evil, but it does mean that we have to be careful that we don't create a system that incentivzes people to come here without the ability to support themselves. 1.6-1.7 million illegals in CA receive free health care. They get EBT and qualify for all kinds of benefits including preferential admission and grants to our very own UC. The burden to the system of this generosity is staggering. In what universe does it make sense? Take away the benefits and millions of these people go home. Heartless? Hardly, they are no worse off than they were before, and if they are on government benefits, they are not adding to the system, they are detracting from it. Yes, but we need the labor illegals provide, you say. Really? If illegals left, wages would rise and Americans would take on many of these jobs. Isn't this what the Democratic party is all about? We have an overabundance of low-skilled workers already. Seasonal agricultural labor can be brought in on guest-worker program basis. It happens regionally in Mexico.

4. If illegals and other non-eligible voters are not voting, why are Democrats so violently opposed to ID verification, scrubbing the voters roles, any restrictions on mail-in ballots etc and why are systems like the CA DMV set up to allow voter registration without any verification of citizenship? If Dems have nothing to hide, why not increase confidence in the system and dispel the conspiracy theories by advocating for election systems that are provably fair and transparent?

Reasonable adults can disagree on some of the particulars but I think the vast majority of Americans want a secure border, they want criminal aliens to be sent home, and they want government aid to primarily go to American citizens. Both parties are part of the problem, but the leaders of your party and the radical left are opposed to all these things. That was my point.

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And I think my main point would be that there once was a time when Tip O'Neil and Ron Reagan would have a beer and discuss things.

Then Newt Gingrich came in and said that Republicans would go scorched earth and never give an inch.

Today, Trump's ICE is shooting American citizens and kidnapping 5 year olds as bait. PAIN is the point.

People like me ARE NOT going to negotiate with an opposition that is unreasonable.

I am not going to bother sorting through the details of your points. There is unreasonability at the base and it's just too frustrating.

Actually, no. I can do better than that.

Okay, let's try ONE issue at a time and see how that goes. If we pile on EVERY issue into each post we will become overwhelmed and quit.

So, how about if you want to talk we just go one by one. You posted 4 initially.
Can I post 1?

1. Do you agree that if a baby is brought to the US by their parents, and lives here until 18, that s/he IS American and should be given citizenship immediately?

That oughta be a softball, and I think the Republican Party should display a sense of the "reasonable adult" behavior you spoke of by conceding a point Obama made oh so long ago.

If you can agree, we can tackle one of yours.

PAC-10-BEAR said:

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Students in San Leandro, CA did an Anti-ICE school walk out.

18% of the students are proficient in math.

42% of the students are proficient in reading.

The public school system is led by activists not educators.

It’s a disaster.pic.twitter.com/W2Du5qkHRk

— C3 (@C_3C_3) January 30, 2026

What a mess! The adults aren't any better!

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The point of schools is to educate people. Did you want to teach only those already educated?

Please go back 200 years and tell me what the literacy rate was in this country.

I obtained ship manifest for my grandmother's mother coming from Ukraine in 1905. Could not read or write. The eldest son lost a hand in a Youngstown steel mill. Education became all important. Thereafter, all were educated at Ohio State in the 1930's. My mother ended up at Cal. Other descendants similarly progressed elsewhere.

This is how it works.



I could understand the xenophobia better if our internal birth rate was higher, but Americans have significantly fewer than 2 children per female, so we require immigration in order to maintain a level workforce.

I cannot understand turning away the engine that drives the economy forward.

Xenophobia.
Skin color, language, religion, culture…
Xenophobia.

Every one of these twitter videos that doesn't play embedded and instead launches a new browser tab….. means I'll never click a watch. Pain in the A**.

They better find folks wiling to do all the roofing. The typical "roofing company" here is one white dude who knows a crew team that comes in and bangs out a good roof in no time…. while meth heads sit around and ***** about these guys stealing their jobs.

And just like that, no one is talking about the nurse anymore?

cal83dls79 said:

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They better find folks willing to do all the roofing. The typical "roofing company" here is one white dude who knows a crew team that comes in and bangs out a good roof in no time…. while meth heads sit around and ***** about these guys stealing their jobs.

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Roofers = Criminals

Who knew?