Some musings about the Democratic Party's deep challenge

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In reply to BearlySane88 • 1:21p, 4/21/26
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I wasn't even aware he was still pretending to be a liberal
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1:33p, 4/21/26
Epstein's lawyer is no longer a Democrat. What will happen to the "files" ?
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 2:17p, 4/21/26
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Dershowitz left the Democrats a long time ago.
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In reply to sycasey • 2:49p, 4/21/26
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BearlySane88 said:

Dershowitz left the Democrats a long time ago.


Apparently not in terms of registering
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ActBlue, USAID, now this. SPLC funneled $3 million to hate groups?! Eleven indictments in Alabama!

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In reply to movielover • 4:32p, 4/21/26
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ActBlue, USAID, now this. SPLC funneled $3 million to hate groups?! Eleven indictments in Alabama!

The same Democratic Party that founded the KKK funneled money to them during the Biden era?

This is very......expected!
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In reply to movielover • 4:53p, 4/21/26
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ActBlue, USAID, now this. SPLC funneled $3 million to hate groups?! Eleven indictments in Alabama!

Please tell me taxpayer money wasn't used....
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 5:43p, 4/21/26
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movielover said:
ActBlue, USAID, now this. SPLC funneled $3 million to hate groups?! Eleven indictments in Alabama!

The same Democratic Party that founded the KKK funneled money to them during the Biden era?

This is very......expected!


I hope this is just Act I now that Bondi is gone.
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Do law enforcement agencies like the CIA, FBI, DEA, and local police departments pay informants?
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In reply to BearNIt • 6:00p, 4/21/26
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Do law enforcement agencies like the CIA, FBI, DEA, and local police departments pay informants?


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In reply to BearNIt • 6:01p, 4/21/26
BearNIt said:
Do law enforcement agencies like the CIA, FBI, DEA, and local police departments pay informants?

Do law enforcement agencies like the CIA, FBI, DEA, and local police departments pay A G I T A T O R S?
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:15p, 4/21/26
BearlySane88 said:
BearNIt said:
Do law enforcement agencies like the CIA, FBI, DEA, and local police departments pay informants?



Mystery solved. The khakis and clothes were all new and uniform and never passed the sniff test.
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In reply to movielover • 6:23p, 4/21/26
movielover said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
movielover said:
ActBlue, USAID, now this. SPLC funneled $3 million to hate groups?! Eleven indictments in Alabama!

The same Democratic Party that founded the KKK funneled money to them during the Biden era?

This is very......expected!

I hope this is just Act I now that Bondi is gone.

Let them cook.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 7:00p, 4/21/26
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BearNIt said:
Do law enforcement agencies like the CIA, FBI, DEA, and local police departments pay informants?

Do law enforcement agencies like the CIA, FBI, DEA, and local police departments pay A G I T A T O R S?

The FBI paid George Dorsett a top tier informant and looked the other way as he rallied Klan members.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:14p, 4/21/26
"Between 2014 and 2023, the SPLC secretly funneled more than $3 million in donated funds to individuals who were associated with various violent extremist groups including:

Ku Klux Klan
United Klans of America
Unite the Right
National Alliance
National Socialist Movement
Aryan Nations affiliated Sadistic Souls Motorcycle Club
National Socialist Party of America (American Nazi Party)
American Front

"According to the indictment, the objective of the scheme and artifice was to obtain money via donations through materially false representations and omissions about what the donated funds would be used for.

"In order to covertly pay the individuals, the SPLC opened bank accounts connected to a series of fictitious entities. The covert nature of the accounts allowed the SPLC to disguise the true nature, source, ownership, and control of the fraudulently obtained donated money the SPLC paid the individuals. In order to keep the scheme going, the SPLC made a series of false statements related to the operation of the accounts.

"A conviction will result in the forfeiture of financial gains from the alleged illegal activities."

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/federal-grand-jury-charges-southern-poverty-law-center-wire-fraud-false-statements-and

This is gonna run dozens of different directions. This is after ActBlue and USAID - all a big grift.
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7:36p, 4/21/26
Based on today's stunning news, if the biggest threat to our country is white supremacy, then vicariously, the biggest threat to our country is....Democrats.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 9:31p, 4/21/26
BearlySane88 said:

Okay, doesn't all this just mean the SPLC was paying people to infiltrate groups they thought might be white supremacist groups and report back on their activities? The dollar amounts quoted are added up over a period of like 7 years, so no one was exactly being paid a fortune here.

Unless there's evidence that these people actually created the Charlottesville rally where there would otherwise have been none (as opposed to just being active in group chats), what is the issue here?
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 2:51a, 4/22/26
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To most Americans, $270,000 for an infrequent side gig, posting a few racial slurs online and organizing a few rallies - is a small fortune.
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3:26a, 4/22/26
How long can the MSM jackals avoid reality?

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In reply to sycasey • 6:37a, 4/22/26
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:

Okay, doesn't all this just mean the SPLC was paying people to infiltrate groups they thought might be white supremacist groups and report back on their activities? The dollar amounts quoted are added up over a period of like 7 years, so no one was exactly being paid a fortune here.

Unless there's evidence that these people actually created the Charlottesville rally where there would otherwise have been none (as opposed to just being active in group chats), what is the issue here?


Planning the event is not the same as just being active in group chats
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 8:59a, 4/22/26
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:

Okay, doesn't all this just mean the SPLC was paying people to infiltrate groups they thought might be white supremacist groups and report back on their activities? The dollar amounts quoted are added up over a period of like 7 years, so no one was exactly being paid a fortune here.

Unless there's evidence that these people actually created the Charlottesville rally where there would otherwise have been none (as opposed to just being active in group chats), what is the issue here?


Planning the event is not the same as just being active in group chats

So far all I've seen is that they were "members" of a chat group that was planning the event. Not that they planned it all by themselves. That still lines up with the idea that they were infiltrating and posing as "true believer" type members.
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In reply to sycasey • 9:06a, 4/22/26
So why the shell companies?
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9:07a, 4/22/26
Klan, AntiFa, etc are fringe groups of no danger to the state. Their sole purpose are as propaganda tools suggesting that they are the agents of the opposing political party. In truth the biggest danger to democracy are the Republicans and Democrats
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9:08a, 4/22/26
The Democrats abandoned thebworking class decades ago in favor of millions of illegal immigrants.

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In reply to sycasey • 9:21a, 4/22/26
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:

Okay, doesn't all this just mean the SPLC was paying people to infiltrate groups they thought might be white supremacist groups and report back on their activities? The dollar amounts quoted are added up over a period of like 7 years, so no one was exactly being paid a fortune here.

Unless there's evidence that these people actually created the Charlottesville rally where there would otherwise have been none (as opposed to just being active in group chats), what is the issue here?


Planning the event is not the same as just being active in group chats

So far all I've seen is that they were "members" of a chat group that was planning the event. Not that they planned it all by themselves. That still lines up with the idea that they were infiltrating and posing as "true believer" type members.


Yes, they were part of the leadership group who planned the event. That's bad enough. That's not just being an informant, that's actively planning the event. They also scheduled transportation. It'll be interesting to see how involved they were. It'll be even more interesting to find out who exactly it was. Probably Nick Fuentes lol
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In reply to movielover • 9:22a, 4/22/26
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So why the shell companies?

Dunno, but it seems like they were trying to hide their own involvement for obvious reasons (they have people effectively "undercover" in the organization).
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 9:28a, 4/22/26
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:

Okay, doesn't all this just mean the SPLC was paying people to infiltrate groups they thought might be white supremacist groups and report back on their activities? The dollar amounts quoted are added up over a period of like 7 years, so no one was exactly being paid a fortune here.

Unless there's evidence that these people actually created the Charlottesville rally where there would otherwise have been none (as opposed to just being active in group chats), what is the issue here?


Planning the event is not the same as just being active in group chats

So far all I've seen is that they were "members" of a chat group that was planning the event. Not that they planned it all by themselves. That still lines up with the idea that they were infiltrating and posing as "true believer" type members.


Yes, they were part of the leadership group who planned the event. That's bad enough. That's not just being an informant, that's actively planning the event. They also scheduled transportation. It'll be interesting to see how involved they were. It'll be even more interesting to find out who exactly it was. Probably Nick Fuentes lol


Is it possible the FBI and DOJ released this information prematurely for political reasons?
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 9:28a, 4/22/26
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:

Okay, doesn't all this just mean the SPLC was paying people to infiltrate groups they thought might be white supremacist groups and report back on their activities? The dollar amounts quoted are added up over a period of like 7 years, so no one was exactly being paid a fortune here.

Unless there's evidence that these people actually created the Charlottesville rally where there would otherwise have been none (as opposed to just being active in group chats), what is the issue here?


Planning the event is not the same as just being active in group chats

So far all I've seen is that they were "members" of a chat group that was planning the event. Not that they planned it all by themselves. That still lines up with the idea that they were infiltrating and posing as "true believer" type members.


Yes, they were part of the leadership group who planned the event. That's bad enough. That's not just being an informant, that's actively planning the event. They also scheduled transportation. It'll be interesting to see how involved they were. It'll be even more interesting to find out who exactly it was. Probably Nick Fuentes lol

I think you can argue that there are ethical issues with this kind of infiltration and that the undercover folks may wind up doing things they don't actually support. That's different from saying it's illegal and constitutes any kind of fraud. So far I don't actually see that here.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 9:34a, 4/22/26
It goes farther than that.



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