movielover said:
How was she a close friend?
Yes, Epstein victim Maria Farmer has stated this in multiple interviews (e.g., with Whitney Webb and TrueAnon), describing Ivana Trump as Ghislaine Maxwell's close friend who accompanied her on outings where Maxwell collected girls' numbers. Trump's Epstein ties are documented,…
— Grok (@grok) July 20, 2025
Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
im pretty sure an alien sighting would cure my own TDS, along with other stuff, although I'm not positive…I mean the guy is a royal DB.PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
The difference is this: Whether aliens are real or not, It doesn't serve a purpose for either of us. But you so desperately want Trump to be guilty of something, anything, even if it means trusting a single source unconfirmed by others that even Democrats didn't dare to touch all these years. Good luck.
PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
The difference is this: Whether aliens are real or not, It doesn't serve a purpose for either of us. But you so desperately want Trump to be guilty of something, anything, even if it means trusting a single source unconfirmed by others that even Democrats didn't dare to touch all these years. Good luck.
PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
The difference is this: Whether aliens are real or not, It doesn't serve a purpose for either of us. But you so desperately want Trump to be guilty of something, anything, even if it means trusting a single source unconfirmed by others that even Democrats didn't dare to touch all these years. Good luck.
Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
The difference is this: Whether aliens are real or not, It doesn't serve a purpose for either of us. But you so desperately want Trump to be guilty of something, anything, even if it means trusting a single source unconfirmed by others that even Democrats didn't dare to touch all these years. Good luck.
This is where you are dead wrong.
Unlike you and the other 4 guys on here who are complete Trump cult devotees, I am not a groupie of any politician, or beholden to any political party. I was one of the main critics of Biden during his tenure, pointing out very early that he was senile, and criticizing his neocon foreign policy.
Trump campaigned on ending foreign wars, being transparent and exposing the Epstein pedo blackmail operation, and "draining the swamp", instead he did a 180, and turned out to be far more corrupt than the most corrupt crony elements in the Democrat Party, people like Nancy Pelosi.
You're so far gone in your cult-like partisanship that you cannot even see this.
SBGold said:
Ok that was filled with lies and racist. How is that allowed to left on this board moderators?
SBGold said:
Oh I don't know, maybe saying someone got an honor because they are black would not be seen as the most enlightened comment. A racist would not be blinded to that though.
Choose Kindness and don't be racist
Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
The difference is this: Whether aliens are real or not, It doesn't serve a purpose for either of us. But you so desperately want Trump to be guilty of something, anything, even if it means trusting a single source unconfirmed by others that even Democrats didn't dare to touch all these years. Good luck.
This is where you are dead wrong.
Unlike you and the other 4 guys on here who are complete Trump cult devotees, I am not a groupie of any politician, or beholden to any political party. I was one of the main critics of Biden during his tenure, pointing out very early that he was senile, and criticizing his neocon foreign policy.
Trump campaigned on ending foreign wars, being transparent and exposing the Epstein pedo blackmail operation, and "draining the swamp", instead he did a 180, and turned out to be far more corrupt than the most corrupt crony elements in the Democrat Party, people like Nancy Pelosi.
You're so far gone in your cult-like partisanship that you cannot even see this.
SBGold said:
Oh I don't know, maybe saying someone got an honor because they are black would not be seen as the most enlightened comment. A racist would not be blinded to that though.
Choose Kindness and don't be racist
movielover said:SBGold said:
Ok that was filled with lies and racist. How is that allowed to left on this board moderators?
How?
PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
The difference is this: Whether aliens are real or not, It doesn't serve a purpose for either of us. But you so desperately want Trump to be guilty of something, anything, even if it means trusting a single source unconfirmed by others that even Democrats didn't dare to touch all these years. Good luck.
This is where you are dead wrong.
Unlike you and the other 4 guys on here who are complete Trump cult devotees, I am not a groupie of any politician, or beholden to any political party. I was one of the main critics of Biden during his tenure, pointing out very early that he was senile, and criticizing his neocon foreign policy.
Trump campaigned on ending foreign wars, being transparent and exposing the Epstein pedo blackmail operation, and "draining the swamp", instead he did a 180, and turned out to be far more corrupt than the most corrupt crony elements in the Democrat Party, people like Nancy Pelosi.
You're so far gone in your cult-like partisanship that you cannot even see this.
Many like to see themselves as an independent thinker, someone who's neutral, not beholden to any group as you say, a centrist with the ability to see things from multiple perspectives and can criticize both sides. But in reality, everyone believes in something.
You want to believe Trump visited Epstein island to have sex with girls so badly that it's clouding the rest of your judgement. The Democrats/ Deep State wanted to believe this too but after spying on Trump, they decided to go through the trouble and take the Russia collusion route.
Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Her Fallout w/ President Trump Was Over the Epstein Files
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) February 16, 2026
“I'm trying to tell him, ‘Mr. President, they say you did nothing wrong. This needs to come out’ … He tells me on this phone call, ‘Marjorie, my friends will get hurt.’” pic.twitter.com/7I7U64L93n
Leon Black, who is also my abuser's very good friend, with two of Jeffrey Epstein's "girls".
— Kirby Sommers (@LandlordLinks) March 1, 2026
I can assure you the chocolate ice cream and chocolate syrup are for Leon. #LeonBlack #ApolloGlobalManagement #Drexel #MichaelMilken #MeshulamRiklis pic.twitter.com/RAUEBUUeFR
Leon Black with Trump ‘96 in Russia, with Kushner in 2016. pic.twitter.com/DTELnQhq2W
— BevMarie 🪷 (@evenbev) February 11, 2026
Leon Black’s son works in the Trump administration 👇 https://t.co/EYiTVjhEUQ pic.twitter.com/Ot8rydN1m3
— Ms. M @msmalarkey24.bsky (@MsMalarkey24) February 12, 2026
Trump is up to his ears in corruption. Leon Black's son gets job in the Trump administration. pic.twitter.com/MsQayQ2lI9
— KT "Special MI6 Operation" (@KremlinTrolls) February 12, 2026
movielover said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
The difference is this: Whether aliens are real or not, It doesn't serve a purpose for either of us. But you so desperately want Trump to be guilty of something, anything, even if it means trusting a single source unconfirmed by others that even Democrats didn't dare to touch all these years. Good luck.
This is where you are dead wrong.
Unlike you and the other 4 guys on here who are complete Trump cult devotees, I am not a groupie of any politician, or beholden to any political party. I was one of the main critics of Biden during his tenure, pointing out very early that he was senile, and criticizing his neocon foreign policy.
Trump campaigned on ending foreign wars, being transparent and exposing the Epstein pedo blackmail operation, and "draining the swamp", instead he did a 180, and turned out to be far more corrupt than the most corrupt crony elements in the Democrat Party, people like Nancy Pelosi.
You're so far gone in your cult-like partisanship that you cannot even see this.
Not perfect, but progress. Bondi a disastrous choice. POTUS did help secure 8, 9 peace deals, while Barack Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for being Black.
Sunlight great so far, not perfect. CONgress won't pass the SAVE Act though 75% of Americans support it. Tulsi exposes the CIA trying to remove a President. Harmeet Dhillon cleared out the idealogical types in Civil Rights. Energy production booming, Panama Canal secured, Venezuela too, Iran dramatic change, and the CCP Panda faces a dramatically different geopolitical board. Some manufacturing returning home, some pharma, new trade deals, including Japan, and Mexico close.
Epstein documents released:
Joe Biden - in 4 years:
Documents: 0
Images: 0
Videos: 0
Donald Trump - in 1 year:
Documents: 3.5 million pages
Images: 180,000 images
Videos: 2,000
movielover said:
Yes, saving half the children is better than saving none.
You have given Biden, Harris, and Obama a pass
Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
The difference is this: Whether aliens are real or not, It doesn't serve a purpose for either of us. But you so desperately want Trump to be guilty of something, anything, even if it means trusting a single source unconfirmed by others that even Democrats didn't dare to touch all these years. Good luck.
This is where you are dead wrong.
Unlike you and the other 4 guys on here who are complete Trump cult devotees, I am not a groupie of any politician, or beholden to any political party. I was one of the main critics of Biden during his tenure, pointing out very early that he was senile, and criticizing his neocon foreign policy.
Trump campaigned on ending foreign wars, being transparent and exposing the Epstein pedo blackmail operation, and "draining the swamp", instead he did a 180, and turned out to be far more corrupt than the most corrupt crony elements in the Democrat Party, people like Nancy Pelosi.
You're so far gone in your cult-like partisanship that you cannot even see this.
Many like to see themselves as an independent thinker, someone who's neutral, not beholden to any group as you say, a centrist with the ability to see things from multiple perspectives and can criticize both sides. But in reality, everyone believes in something.
You want to believe Trump visited Epstein island to have sex with girls so badly that it's clouding the rest of your judgement. The Democrats/ Deep State wanted to believe this too but after spying on Trump, they decided to go through the trouble and take the Russia collusion route.
At the very least, Trump is protecting powerful people who are pedos like billionaire Leon Black, a longtime friend of Trump who raped a 7 year old girl. Leon Black's son is a high official in the Trump administration. There are others like Wexner.
Trump might also be directly implicated. MT Greene mentioned that when she asked Trump to release the Epstein files, Trump yelled back at her shouting that his friends were implicated.
What we also do know is that Trump knew exactly what Ghislaine and Epstein were doing while maintaining a longtime friendship with them. Trump's longtime mentor Roy Cohn was also engaged in blackmail operations. Trump is simply put, part of a seedy part of the swamp.
If #2 was true, Trump would have already told us LOUDLY and BIGLY multiple times by now. At the very least, he would have directed the FBI to release that tidbit.movielover said:
You leave out highly salient points:
1. Donald Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago club, with accounts varying between 2003 and 2007.
2. Trump voluntarily met with the FBI, and was reportedly a key Confidential Informant.
3. He met the FBI without lawyers present.
4. There are dozens of reported Democrat players like Bill Gates who reportedly met with Epstein after his criminal conviction and jail time, and President Clinton reportedly visited notorious Epstein Island over a dozen times.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:movielover said:
You leave out highly salient points:
1. Donald Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago club, with accounts varying between 2003 and 2007.
2. Trump voluntarily met with the FBI, and was reportedly a key Confidential Informant.
3. He met the FBI without lawyers present.
4. There are dozens of reported Democrat players like Bill Gates who reportedly met with Epstein after his criminal conviction and jail time, and President Clinton reportedly visited notorious Epstein Island over a dozen times.
If #2 was true, Trump would have already told us LOUDLY and BIGLY multiple times by now. At the very least, he would have directed the FBI to release that tidbit.
PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Cal88 said:PAC-10-BEAR said:Muckieeye said:
They only pay attention to Grok and X when they confirm their biases. Otherwise, it is fake news, Iranian propaganda, Lefty Lib nonsense.
Grok only confirmed that's what Famer said. Grok doesn't know if they were best friends.
Do you want to be my best friend, AunBear?
You will believe stuff about giant ginger space aliens living in Afghanistan, but will absolutely refuse to believe a witness who has known Epstein and Ghislaine for years because she told the truth about your cult leader Donald and one of his exes.
The difference is this: Whether aliens are real or not, It doesn't serve a purpose for either of us. But you so desperately want Trump to be guilty of something, anything, even if it means trusting a single source unconfirmed by others that even Democrats didn't dare to touch all these years. Good luck.
This is where you are dead wrong.
Unlike you and the other 4 guys on here who are complete Trump cult devotees, I am not a groupie of any politician, or beholden to any political party. I was one of the main critics of Biden during his tenure, pointing out very early that he was senile, and criticizing his neocon foreign policy.
Trump campaigned on ending foreign wars, being transparent and exposing the Epstein pedo blackmail operation, and "draining the swamp", instead he did a 180, and turned out to be far more corrupt than the most corrupt crony elements in the Democrat Party, people like Nancy Pelosi.
You're so far gone in your cult-like partisanship that you cannot even see this.
Many like to see themselves as an independent thinker, someone who's neutral, not beholden to any group as you say, a centrist with the ability to see things from multiple perspectives and can criticize both sides. But in reality, everyone believes in something.
You want to believe Trump visited Epstein island to have sex with girls so badly that it's clouding the rest of your judgement. The Democrats/ Deep State wanted to believe this too but after spying on Trump, they decided to go through the trouble and take the Russia collusion route.
At the very least, Trump is protecting powerful people who are pedos like billionaire Leon Black, a longtime friend of Trump who raped a 7 year old girl. Leon Black's son is a high official in the Trump administration. There are others like Wexner.
Trump might also be directly implicated. MT Greene mentioned that when she asked Trump to release the Epstein files, Trump yelled back at her shouting that his friends were implicated.
What we also do know is that Trump knew exactly what Ghislaine and Epstein were doing while maintaining a longtime friendship with them. Trump's longtime mentor Roy Cohn was also engaged in blackmail operations. Trump is simply put, part of a seedy part of the swamp.
Again, this isn't fact, this is something you want to believe.
Yes, it's frustrating that people like Leon Black aren't in prison. Likewise, it's also frustrating that the Federal prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) and the local Manhattan DA's (DANY) office did not bring charges after having reviewed sexual abuse allegations against him in connection with Epstein between 2019-2024. This is the same SDNY and DANY that investigated Trump and prosecuted his associates!!
As of early 2026, at least one related suit against Black's former law firm was ongoing or appealed, but these are civil matters, not criminal. Black also settled with the U.S. Virgin Islands in 2023, gaining immunity from civil claims there related to Epstein funding. Democrat territory, Joe Biden era.
NEW: Marjorie Taylor Greene says that Trump "flat out" told Pam Bondi "do not release the Epstein Files."
— Sense Receptor (@SenseReceptor) April 21, 2026
"[Trump] was blocking everybody... he said, 'My friends will get hurt.'... People at Mar-a-Lago, they're going to get hurt.'"
"His reasoning was 'people are going to get… pic.twitter.com/LHYpjItFKs
Tucker Carlson exposes a sickening text exchange. When Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene revealed her son was receiving death threats over the Epstein files, Donald Trump coldly replied that the child deserved it. The moral decay inside the White House is horrifying. pic.twitter.com/sGEJBVVAST
— Furkan Gözükara (@FurkanGozukara) April 21, 2026