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In reply to DiabloWags • 1:23p, 3/5/26
DiabloWags said:
I believe that is called deflection.

In my opinion, Cal88 is right.
You are not a good faith poster in this forum.
You are not genuinely interested in an honest discussion.


Good thing your opinion and Cal88's has no impact on my life.

My partner is the money manager, not sure how that deflecting. It's just a fact.
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5:54a, 3/6/26
February jobs were a loss of 92,000. Going back 10 months we have lost a total of 19,000 jobs. And these are lagging indicators, lol. Trump is the worst jobs President since Herbert Hoover. And the worst war President since George W Bush. Glad I never voted for him.

Keep it up MAGA
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:26a, 3/6/26
Calling it the worst jobs record since Hoover would only make sense if the labor market were experiencing mass unemployment or multi-million job losses, which is a much higher bar historically. Overly dramatic take.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:33a, 3/6/26
BearlySane88 said:
Calling it the worst jobs record since Hoover would only make sense if the labor market were experiencing mass unemployment or multi-million job losses, which is a much higher bar historically. Overly dramatic take.


Who is worse?
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:35a, 3/6/26
It's apples to oranges in some respect. Trump has slashed government jobs growth.
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6:43a, 3/6/26
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:44a, 3/6/26
BearlySane88 said:
It's apples to oranges in some respect. Trump has slashed government jobs growth.


Lol. That's what Hoover said.
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6:53a, 3/6/26
Dubya benefitted from big productivity improvements, his tenure corresponded with the mass adoption of high speed internet. Despite the NASDAQ bubble bursting, the economy was taking off as the startup chaff was weeded out and the click and mortar economy took off.

Trump has brought about self-inflicted wounds including not reining in the deficit, implementing poor strategies on tariffs (coffee and bananas? destroying markets like Canada, not understanding supply chains and input costs etc), and now with the Epstein War, newest chapter of Forever War, oil shock and old school 1970s stagflation.

1973
1979
2026.
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:53a, 3/6/26
dajo9 said:
BearlySane88 said:
It's apples to oranges in some respect. Trump has slashed government jobs growth.


Lol. That's what Hoover said.


Unemployment was at 25% under Hoover. It's currently at 4.4%. Your wish to install panic is not based on facts.
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:56a, 3/6/26
You keep calling it a forever war. Maybe it will be and that would suck but you say that like it's a fact and it's already happened. We are in day 12 or something, maybe stop being such an extremist and see what happens before you make those claims.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:00a, 3/6/26
How about "Forever War, the first quarter century" then, as we celebrate the start of the 24th year of Forever War this month.
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In reply to Cal88 • 7:04a, 3/6/26
Are you saying Obama and Biden didn't stop this "forever war" either?
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:17a, 3/6/26
BearlySane88 said:
dajo9 said:
BearlySane88 said:
It's apples to oranges in some respect. Trump has slashed government jobs growth.


Lol. That's what Hoover said.


Unemployment was at 25% under Hoover. It's currently at 4.4%. Your wish to install panic is not based on facts.

You don't understand what I am saying. But don't worry, I'm used to having to explain things to you a 2nd time.

When I say Trump is the worst jobs President since Hoover, I am saying Hoover was worse than Trump. When you say it isn't true (when you aren't making excuses for Trump being the worst jobs President since Hoover because of government jobs) you are saying there is a President between Hoover and Trump who is a worse jobs President than Trump. So you talking about Hoover's record is not an argument against what I am saying. I already said Hoover is worse than Trump.

So, Trump is the worst jobs President since Hoover. If you disagree, give me a name.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:29a, 3/6/26
BearlySane88 said:
Are you saying Obama and Biden didn't stop this "forever war" either?

Libya, Syria, Gaza...
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:36a, 3/6/26
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
I believe that is called deflection.

In my opinion, Cal88 is right.
You are not a good faith poster in this forum.
You are not genuinely interested in an honest discussion.


Good thing your opinion and Cal88's has no impact on my life.

My partner is the money manager, not sure how that deflecting. It's just a fact.


I asked you some specific questions about the economy.
Not your partner.

You deflected.

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7:40a, 3/6/26


Employment Situation News Release - 2026 M02 Results
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8:26a, 3/6/26
"We Should Be Talking About Dow 50,000"

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8:36a, 3/6/26
Trouble in Private Credit Land.
Managing redemption requests to 5%.
Shareholders had requested 9.3% of their shares.

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8:55a, 3/6/26
Note the nonfarm payroll employment revision for December.
- 65,000

I wonder if Trump will fire the BLS statistician again like he did last August for a bad number?

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In reply to Cal88 • 9:57a, 3/6/26
At least you stick to your guns on both sides. I can appreciate that
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In reply to dajo9 • 9:59a, 3/6/26
No, I definitely understood. It was just a dumb connection. Instead of getting in the mud with you and I'll just say this, the discrepancy is so large from where Hoover was to where Trump is. To compare the two, as you did, is foolish.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 10:02a, 3/6/26
DiabloWags said:
Note the nonfarm payroll employment revision for December.
- 65,000

I wonder if Trump will fire the BLS statistician again like he did last August for a bad number?

Just imagine how bad the numbers would be if Trump didn't have his lackeys at the Bureau of Labor Statistics cooking the books.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 10:14a, 3/6/26
lol and I gave you an answer. It's not my fault you didn't like the answer.

Not sure why you think you deserve answers from anyone. It's not my realm, as I said.
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In reply to chazzed • 10:55a, 3/6/26
chazzed said:
mine are the 2 flags at the WH and curing autism
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 11:24a, 3/6/26
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
DiabloWags said:
Note the nonfarm payroll employment revision for December.
- 65,000

I wonder if Trump will fire the BLS statistician again like he did last August for a bad number?


Just imagine how bad the numbers would be if Trump didn't have his lackeys at the Bureau of Labor Statistics cooking the books.


Can't wait for the Fed's favorite inflation gauge to come out next Friday.
The street is expecting a core PCE number of 3.2%

When Trump was inaugurated it was 2.6%

Clearly, this number will be trending higher over the next several months.


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12:35p, 3/6/26
For a lot of reasons, the stock market has driven the economy.

This is not going to be a good weekly close.
Chart is rolling over.

20 week MA broken.




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12:50p, 3/6/26
Retail Sales DECLINED 0.2% in January from the prior month.

That's the biggest decline since May of last year.
Expectations were for 0%




Jobs are falling. Spending is, too. That's a problem
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5:04p, 3/6/26
The U.S. Labor Market is Terribly Soft.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-06/us-unexpectedly-sheds-92-000-jobs-unemployment-rate-rises?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc3Mjg0NTUxMywiZXhwIjoxNzczNDUwMzEzLCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJUQkFHVkpLSzNOWUIwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiI0QTE0NjgyRTVEQjI0RDgyOEVGOTIxMzA1M0U4NzhDMiJ9.gsi8kS5Ys9YONS-SVgZu4d7RA5y1fN7Sgm_cx60duCM
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5:14p, 3/6/26
Coming into today's jobs report GDPNow was at 3.0%

Today, it collapsed.

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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:20p, 3/6/26
DiabloWags said:
Coming into today's jobs report GDPNow was at 3.0%
Today, it collapsed.

i'm guessing that's a baad thing, with lagging consequences noticed/obvious by when?
hopefully well before the next national election, puh-lease
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3:16a, 3/7/26

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In reply to Cal88 • 6:56a, 3/7/26
Yes. I posted the Atlanta GDPNow above.
It was impacted by Friday's jobs report and revisions.

Its a cumulative real-time GDP measurement.



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9:36a, 3/7/26
So much for that 5 - 6% growth that Howard Lutnick was touting just a month ago.

He needs a new cheerleading outfit.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 9:40a, 3/7/26
DiabloWags said:
So much for that 5 - 6% growth that Howard Lutnick was touting just a month ago.

He needs a new cheerleading outfit.


Did the people on this site who were touting 5% GDP growth ever reflect on their mistake?
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