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dajo9
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Statements from Trump's misinformation mouthpieces continue to be at odds with statements from Iran

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/us-israel-iran-war/irans-foreign-minister-details-proposed-memorandum-with-us-says-war-would-end-across-all-fronts/3965675
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dajo9 said:

movielover post 1 - " the media should refrain from speculating"

movielover post 2 - here is what amuse speculates

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/124031/replies/2704256
there is no need to speculate, the deal will be what Trump says the deal is, but we all know that.
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tequila4kapp
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I paid $3.38 in Memphis, TN tonight
movielover
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$5.29 at Costco.
Dwight Way
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$5.49 at Chevron on San Pablo, Berkeley.
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1,79 per liter in Palma, Mallorca.
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oski003
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I just got gas at Costco for $4.79.
dajo9
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Trump is trying to negotiate terms of America's defeat but since Trump has made us a proxy of Israel, Israel is blocking it.
oski003
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dajo9 said:

Trump is trying to negotiate terms of America's defeat but since Trump has made us a proxy of Israel, Israel is blocking it.


What kind of bs Iranian propaganda has led you to believe these are terms of America's "defeat?"
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Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?
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Cal88 said:

Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?


Not sure what Iran passes Go on Hormuz means. As for there being nothing about the enriched uranium and missile programs, what is your source? As far as I know, the $24 billion is being withheld until the items you claim there is nothing about are sorted out.
dajo9
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?


Not sure what Iran passes Go on Hormuz means. As for there being nothing about the enriched uranium and missile programs, what is your source? As far as I know, the $24 billion is being withheld until the items you claim there is nothing about are sorted out.

What kind of bs Trumpian propaganda are you listening to? You should find yourself some neutral sources.
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?


Not sure what Iran passes Go on Hormuz means. As for there being nothing about the enriched uranium and missile programs, what is your source? As far as I know, the $24 billion is being withheld until the items you claim there is nothing about are sorted out.

I think they collect toll on Hormuz. They also get half of that $24B outright, and there is talk of a $300B reconstruction fund though that might just be an empty promise.

A lot of noise so far, Trump might have just been too eager to get something for his birthday and could change his mind or have his arm twisted by Bibi and Lindsay. Can he get Israel to behave in Lebanon? We'll see.
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oski003
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Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?


Not sure what Iran passes Go on Hormuz means. As for there being nothing about the enriched uranium and missile programs, what is your source? As far as I know, the $24 billion is being withheld until the items you claim there is nothing about are sorted out.

I think they collect toll on Hormuz. They also get half of that $24B outright, and there is talk of a $300B reconstruction fund though that might just be an empty promise.

A lot of noise so far, Trump might have just been too eager to get something for his birthday and could change his mind or have his arm twisted by Bibi and Lindsay. Can he get Israel to behave in Lebanon? We'll see.


We will likely find out if what you stated earlier that you now only think is true is actually true! Good times.
tequila4kapp
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I have found nothing concrete; there's a wide variance of alleged terms being reported. I don't fully trust / believe anything that's being reported now, and suspect we will have to wait until it is officially signed and the terms are officially made public.
Cal88
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Right, there is a lot of noise around the terms.

Then there's some likely dealbreakers:
dajo9
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Does anyone here think Trump would keep the deal secret if it were favorable to him?
 
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