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5:56p, 6/12/26
Statements from Trump's misinformation mouthpieces continue to be at odds with statements from Iran

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/us-israel-iran-war/irans-foreign-minister-details-proposed-memorandum-with-us-says-war-would-end-across-all-fronts/3965675
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:34p, 6/12/26
dajo9 said:
movielover post 1 - " the media should refrain from speculating"

movielover post 2 - here is what amuse speculates

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/124031/replies/2704256
there is no need to speculate, the deal will be what Trump says the deal is, but we all know that.
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10:54p, 6/12/26
I paid $3.38 in Memphis, TN tonight
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 9:36a, 6/13/26
$5.29 at Costco.
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12:01p, 6/13/26
$5.49 at Chevron on San Pablo, Berkeley.
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9:58p, 6/13/26
1,79 per liter in Palma, Mallorca.
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8:01a, 6/15/26
I just got gas at Costco for $4.79.
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9:55a, 6/15/26
Trump is trying to negotiate terms of America's defeat but since Trump has made us a proxy of Israel, Israel is blocking it.
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In reply to dajo9 • 9:59a, 6/15/26
dajo9 said:
Trump is trying to negotiate terms of America's defeat but since Trump has made us a proxy of Israel, Israel is blocking it.


What kind of bs Iranian propaganda has led you to believe these are terms of America's "defeat?"
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In reply to oski003 • 11:15a, 6/15/26
Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?
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In reply to Cal88 • 11:40a, 6/15/26
Cal88 said:
Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?


Not sure what Iran passes Go on Hormuz means. As for there being nothing about the enriched uranium and missile programs, what is your source? As far as I know, the $24 billion is being withheld until the items you claim there is nothing about are sorted out.
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In reply to oski003 • 11:52a, 6/15/26
oski003 said:
Cal88 said:
Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?


Not sure what Iran passes Go on Hormuz means. As for there being nothing about the enriched uranium and missile programs, what is your source? As far as I know, the $24 billion is being withheld until the items you claim there is nothing about are sorted out.

What kind of bs Trumpian propaganda are you listening to? You should find yourself some neutral sources.
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In reply to oski003 • 11:57a, 6/15/26
oski003 said:
Cal88 said:
Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?


Not sure what Iran passes Go on Hormuz means. As for there being nothing about the enriched uranium and missile programs, what is your source? As far as I know, the $24 billion is being withheld until the items you claim there is nothing about are sorted out.

I think they collect toll on Hormuz. They also get half of that $24B outright, and there is talk of a $300B reconstruction fund though that might just be an empty promise.

A lot of noise so far, Trump might have just been too eager to get something for his birthday and could change his mind or have his arm twisted by Bibi and Lindsay. Can he get Israel to behave in Lebanon? We'll see.
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11:58a, 6/15/26
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In reply to Cal88 • 12:11p, 6/15/26
Cal88 said:
oski003 said:
Cal88 said:
Iran collects $24 billion in seized assets and passes Go on Hormuz, sanctions lifted, Israel behaves, nothing about their enriched uranium and missile program?


Not sure what Iran passes Go on Hormuz means. As for there being nothing about the enriched uranium and missile programs, what is your source? As far as I know, the $24 billion is being withheld until the items you claim there is nothing about are sorted out.

I think they collect toll on Hormuz. They also get half of that $24B outright, and there is talk of a $300B reconstruction fund though that might just be an empty promise.

A lot of noise so far, Trump might have just been too eager to get something for his birthday and could change his mind or have his arm twisted by Bibi and Lindsay. Can he get Israel to behave in Lebanon? We'll see.


We will likely find out if what you stated earlier that you now only think is true is actually true! Good times.
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12:36p, 6/15/26
I have found nothing concrete; there's a wide variance of alleged terms being reported. I don't fully trust / believe anything that's being reported now, and suspect we will have to wait until it is officially signed and the terms are officially made public.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 12:58p, 6/15/26
Right, there is a lot of noise around the terms.

Then there's some likely dealbreakers:
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6:35p, 6/15/26
Does anyone here think Trump would keep the deal secret if it were favorable to him?
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In reply to Cal88 • 12:18a, 6/17/26
Cal88 said:
Essential summary of where we are today. $150 per barrel coming soon, oil inventories at record lows, worst energy crisis in history,


$75/barrel
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 12:22a, 6/17/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
Essential summary of where we are today. $150 per barrel coming soon, oil inventories at record lows, worst energy crisis in history,


$75/barrel


Why Trump capitulated
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12:23a, 6/17/26
Thank you, Israel!
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In reply to dajo9 • 1:12a, 6/17/26
dajo9 said:
Why Trump capitulated

What were Iran's terms of surrender?
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In reply to m2bear • 4:34a, 6/17/26
m2bear said:
Thank you, Israel!

Israelis are furious at the prospect of peace in the Gulf and in Lebanon.

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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 5:56a, 6/17/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
Essential summary of where we are today. $150 per barrel coming soon, oil inventories at record lows, worst energy crisis in history,


$75/barrel


At what price does it make sense to fill the Strategic Oil Reserve?

Recall in Trump Term 1.0 he signed an EO to refill the Reserve, and the staffers slow walked / balked at the directive.
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In reply to movielover • 6:16a, 6/17/26
If the Iran situation is settled for good prices will drop below $60 next year.
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1:28a, 6/18/26
Lawrence O'Donnell has long been America's smartest pundit

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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 5:42p, 6/18/26
Driving up Highway 99 saw a sign for gas in Modesto, $4.89 gallon.
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5:46p, 6/18/26
Plugged in my car again last night
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 10:51p, 6/18/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:
dajo9 said:
Why Trump capitulated

What were Iran's terms of surrender?


What were our terms of surrender.

Fixed it for you.
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In reply to Tedhead94 the II • 6:27a, 6/19/26
Tedhead94 the II said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
dajo9 said:
Why Trump capitulated

What were Iran's terms of surrender?


What were our terms of surrender.

Fixed it for you.


This is dumb. It's ridiculous how people go from why are we bombing Iran to why did we stop bombing Iran? More leaders in history should have cut wars short to save lives. Trump could have easily just kept bombing Iran into submission. Trump could have boots on the ground. You all would have cried about that too.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:44a, 6/19/26
BearlySane88 said:
Tedhead94 the II said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
dajo9 said:
Why Trump capitulated

What were Iran's terms of surrender?


What were our terms of surrender.

Fixed it for you.


This is dumb. It's ridiculous how people go from why are we bombing Iran to why did we stop bombing Iran? More leaders in history should have cut wars short to save lives. Trump could have easily just kept bombing Iran into submission. Trump could have boots on the ground. You all would have cried about that too.


Trump walked us into a no-win situation that every previous President saw and avoided and then Trump made the lesser bad choice and you think he should be praised. That is delusional.
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:47a, 6/19/26
dajo9 said:
BearlySane88 said:
Tedhead94 the II said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
dajo9 said:
Why Trump capitulated

What were Iran's terms of surrender?


What were our terms of surrender.

Fixed it for you.


This is dumb. It's ridiculous how people go from why are we bombing Iran to why did we stop bombing Iran? More leaders in history should have cut wars short to save lives. Trump could have easily just kept bombing Iran into submission. Trump could have boots on the ground. You all would have cried about that too.


Trump walked us into a no-win situation that every previous President saw and avoided and then Trump made the lesser bad choice and you think he should be praised. That is delusional.


I'm not sure I ever asked for him to be praised. What's delusional is for people to claim we surrendered after also claiming they don't want forever wars. You can have your opinion on whether we should have gone into Iran or not but Iran isn't stronger.
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