Operation Epic Furry Energy Crisis Thread

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BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

I recall that someone here said two weeks ago that we have so much oil and refining capacity in the U.S. that prices would never get above $4.00 a gallon.

You mean the oil companies would never gouge the consumer?

How naive.

https://gasprices.aaa.com/



I don't think anyone here said gas prices wouldn't go above $4.00. Share the post if true, I certainly didn't read that anyone said that.
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DiabloWags
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I think that we will be seeing a lot more massive disconnects in crude oil pricing based on the difference in crude (sweet vs sour) and refinery capability to process different grades.
Cal88
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Right, for example prices for jet fuel/kerosene are skyrocketing.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/jet-fuels-huge-price-surge-points-coming-pain-iran-war-2026-03-05/
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Oil price jumping
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Oil price jumping


I don't necessarily agree with them attacking this site. It is interesting that the tweet says Israel got US approval. That breaks many posters continued narrative.
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BearlySane88
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Good, make people defend their own interests
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DiabloWags
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Perhaps these charts should go in the Economic Thread, but I thought I would place them here where there is more current discussion.












Clearly, the last two charts speak to the lack of energy "intensity" that is required to support the U.S. economy compared to the past when energy intensity was much higher. Consumers are similarly more shock-proof.
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Where do the Abraham Accords come to play in all this?
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
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dajo9 said:

Where do the Abraham Accords come to play in all this?


Are they stored at 666 Fifth Avenue?
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside

“I love Cal deeply, by the way, what are the directions to The Portal from Sproul Plaza?”
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Trillion dollar wealth destruction process now in full swing.
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President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.




Bingo.
Thank You for setting the record straight.

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DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.




Bingo.
Thank You for setting the record straight.




Was he saying Trump was paid to do Israel's bidding before the election?
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.
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dajo9 said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.




Bingo.
Thank You for setting the record straight.




Was he saying Trump was paid to do Israel's bidding before the election?


Part of the reason I preferred Jill Stein.
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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.


How do you defend Russia and yet hate Israel so much?
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.


How do you defend Russia and yet hate Israel so much?


it makes him sound very antisemitic
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.


How do you defend Russia and yet hate Israel so much?


It's pretty simple, Russians don't snipe toddlers in the head.

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brobear said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.


How do you defend Russia and yet hate Israel so much?


it makes him sound very antisemitic


I thought that question was very antislavic.

Seriously though, the hatred of Russia is largely due to decades of Cold War propaganda, whereas people who know what goes on in Palestine hate Israel because they are committing a genocide, that is largely supported by a majority of their population.
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.


How do you defend Russia and yet hate Israel so much?


It's pretty simple, Russians don't snipe toddlers in the head.




What are the alleged statistics on children under the age of 4 being shot in the head in Gaza? Is it more or less than expected given Israel's aggressive maneuvers to root out Hamas while they hide behind civilians?
Cal88
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.


How do you defend Russia and yet hate Israel so much?


It's pretty simple, Russians don't snipe toddlers in the head.




What are the alleged statistics on children under the age of 4 being shot in the head in Gaza? Is it more or less than expected given Israel's aggressive maneuvers to route out Hamas while they hid behind civilians?


What kind of a twisted logic is that, Israelis have to shoot toddlers in the head "in order to root out Hamas"?
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Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.


How do you defend Russia and yet hate Israel so much?


It's pretty simple, Russians don't snipe toddlers in the head.




What are the alleged statistics on children under the age of 4 being shot in the head in Gaza? Is it more or less than expected given Israel's aggressive maneuvers to route out Hamas while they hid behind civilians?


What kind of a twisted logic is that, Israelis have to shoot toddlers in the head "in order to root out Hamas"?


It is sad and unfortunate that this happens, and my logic is not twisted.
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Trump was blackmailed by Russia in his first term.

Skipped four years playing golf.

Trump is now blackmailed by Israel.
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Cal88 said:

brobear said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.


How do you defend Russia and yet hate Israel so much?


it makes him sound very antisemitic


I thought that question was very antislavic.

Seriously though, the hatred of Russia is largely due to decades of Cold War propaganda, whereas people who know what goes on in Palestine hate Israel because they are committing a genocide, that is largely supported by a majority of their population.



a majority of their population that is antisemitic. the question wasn't antislavic, it pointed out you being a hypocrite in your choice of support
Cal88
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brobear said:

Cal88 said:

brobear said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

President Trump was the only one with the guts to call out that disastrous Obama-Biden Iran deal for what it was, a total giveaway that funneled billions in cash to the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, while letting them cheat on inspections. He scrapped that weak deal because it included sunset clauses such as the following:

15-year limit on Iran's enriched uranium stockpile and enrichment level caps. Under the deal, Iran was required to keep its stockpile of low-enriched uranium under 300 kg (at no more than 3.67% enrichment) for 15 years (roughly until around 2030-2031 from implementation in 2016). After that, those strict caps would expire, letting Iran legally ramp up to unlimited stockpiles of low-enriched uranium.


Trump's main issues with the JCPOA is that it was Obama's work, but more importantly, he was paid hundreds of millions by the Adelsons and others to scrap it and do Israel's bidding.

The money sent to Iran was their seized assets, and the sunset clause did not specify that the sanctions had to be lifted.

Some of it was frozen Iranian money from before the revolution or oil sales we blocked with sanctions. There was that shady $1.7 billion in literal pallets of cash flown in on unmarked planes. W It happened the exact week American hostages were released. Was that interest/ ransom money paid for by U.S. taxpayers? And what did Iran do with the money? They funneled it straight to the IRGC, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, and Assad's slaughter in Syria.

As for the sunset clauses, nobody's saying they mandated lifting sanctions at the end. The problem is the JCPOA was rigged from the jump with front-loaded sanctions relief that kicked in right away.


Iran's pre-war GDP was about half a trillion dollars, the $1.7B they got from their seized money barely moved the needle.

Funny you would fixate on $1.7 of their money returned to them when we have given Israel $330 billion already. Or that we have already spent $30-$40 billion on this new war of choice for Israel, not counting the additional tens of billions that Israel is going to extort from us this year.


How do you defend Russia and yet hate Israel so much?


it makes him sound very antisemitic


I thought that question was very antislavic.

Seriously though, the hatred of Russia is largely due to decades of Cold War propaganda, whereas people who know what goes on in Palestine hate Israel because they are committing a genocide, that is largely supported by a majority of their population.



a majority of their population that is antisemitic. the question wasn't antislavic, it pointed out you being a hypocrite in your choice of support


If Martians landed in Palestine and claimed that their god gave them that land, and proceeded to ethnically cleansed Palestinians and genocide them, they'd be antimartiatic.

Palestine was a fairly harmonious mutliconfessional society before the zionists came 100 years ago, with a large Christian minority and a native Jewish population.

Are you familiar with the modern Israeli concept of Amalek? or how Christians are treated in Israel?
 
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