Iran. Oh, the irony...

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Anarchistbear
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Stick to countries that can't fight back
DiabloWags
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Anarchistbear said:


Stick to countries that can't fight back

And don't have any oil.
Cal88
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And so it starts...

chazzed
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Cal88 said:

And so it starts...



Simply terrible. Let's see how our resident MAGAs try to convince us (and themselves) that this is a good thing...
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It's also a pretty dumb approach since Iran can hit a big, fat slow-moving target like a loaded tanker in the Gulf from 1,000 mile away with a number of long-distance drones and missiles.

The troops as well would be sitting ducks.
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Cal88 said:

And so it starts...


there goes that 4 week fantasy pipe dream. When/if the dust settles it will be interesting to see what advice kegsbreath ignored from his Generals in the lead up.
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Cal88 said:

It's also a pretty dumb approach since Iran can hit a big, fat slow-moving target like a loaded tanker in the Gulf from 1,000 mile away with a number of long-distance drones and missiles.

The troops as well would be sitting ducks.



I would hope we have defenses against long-distance drones and missiles. I haven't seen anything indicating we don't.
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Cal88
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

It's also a pretty dumb approach since Iran can hit a big, fat slow-moving target like a loaded tanker in the Gulf from 1,000 mile away with a number of long-distance drones and missiles.

The troops as well would be sitting ducks.



I would hope we have defenses against long-distance drones and missiles. I haven't seen anything indicating we don't.


We actually don't, their offensive stockpile dwarfs our defensive stockpile, and under the best of circumstances, we don't stop the majority of incoming missiles even if we have enough interceptors.



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Cal88
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Aunburdened said:




I wonder if he's related to John Harsanyi, our game theory Nobel Prize winning econ prof.
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Cal88
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Make that 5,000...

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On Wednesday, I thought I heard Trump said that we already Won.





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No surprise, but it seems President Lizard Brain has put zero advance thought into this and the different ways it can play out (even for his own political future). Hint: most of the different end results are bad... and the one that is good is unlikely.
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This war seems to be spiraling. If we put boots on the ground, you have to feel for those troops.
bearister
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Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said today that Iranian Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei is "wounded and likely disfigured." It's the Trump administration's first official statement about Khamenei's health after he was named Iran's new leader.

*Reported by the Daily Mail tabloid 3 days ago. Thanks for the scoop, Pistol Pete.
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It will take 2 weeks for the Marines to arrive from Asia so two more weeks for the war that is "already over."
DiabloWags
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Anarchistbear said:

It will take 2 weeks for the Marines to arrive from Asia so two more weeks for the war that is "already over."

Yup, the USS Tripoli is based out of Japan.
Comes with F-35B joint-strike fighters that allow it to serve as a light strike carrier.

Sure looks like we are playing catch-up.

So much WINNING!
bearister
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We had more than half a million troops in country in South Vietnam in 1969. How'd that work out?

How do you think it would work out if we planted 500,000 troops in Iran next week?
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bearister said:

We had more than half a million troops in country in South Vietnam in 1969. How'd that work out?

How do you think it would work out if we planted 500,000 troops in Iran next week?


We can't have any kind of staging ground with concentrated logistics anywhere within 500kms of Iran, it would get obliterated.

This is a conundrum.
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Elect a Republican, get a war in the Middle East.

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Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

It's also a pretty dumb approach since Iran can hit a big, fat slow-moving target like a loaded tanker in the Gulf from 1,000 mile away with a number of long-distance drones and missiles.

The troops as well would be sitting ducks.



I would hope we have defenses against long-distance drones and missiles. I haven't seen anything indicating we don't.


We actually don't, their offensive stockpile dwarfs our defensive stockpile, and under the best of circumstances, we don't stop the majority of incoming missiles even if we have enough interceptors.





Hard to shoot when your launchers are all being taken out
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bearister said:

We had more than half a million troops in country in South Vietnam in 1969. How'd that work out?
How do you think it would work out if we planted 500,000 troops in Iran next week?

worked out great until tricky d*ck went a bridge too far snooping on a (miffed) free press
# been there, seen that.

for the kiddies,, sad letter and (ad)verse..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon
sighned, not dead yet # funk trunk; i.c.e. too
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nice, thanks sycasey
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Cal88 said:

bearister said:

We had more than half a million troops in country in South Vietnam in 1969. How'd that work out?

How do you think it would work out if we planted 500,000 troops in Iran next week?


We can't have any kind of staging ground with concentrated logistics anywhere within 500kms of Iran, it would get obliterated.

This is a conundrum.


Never mind that we're running low on munitions.
Asymmetric warfare has always been challenging for us.
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DiabloWags
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More Fake News from the White House.
They're really trying to "sell" this War.

For example:

I don't recall CNN ever saying that the Administration "did not plan" for Iran closing the Strait. What they said is that the Administration UNDERESTIMATED that Iran would close the Strait.

Big difference.

And it certainly begs the question why the U.S. now has to wait for the USS Tripoli (based out of Japan) to get into the theater if they had assigned a higher probability of Iran closing the Strait. Had they done so, that light carrier, the USS Tripoli would have ALREADY been in position.

Look, we've all been thru the "selling" of a War before with the Bush Administration and Iraq.

The American public isn't stupid to Pete Hegseth and the typical "straw" man arguments that we see from him during press conferences each morning.

This guy actually had a problem with a media news "ticker" saying that "the Iran War intensifies"

He said that the ticker should have said, "Iran getting desperate"

Meanwhile, he said that the sorties and bombing would ramp up even higher to levels never seen before"

Yup.
Sounds like the War is "intensifying"
Cults don't end well. They really don't.
Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

It's also a pretty dumb approach since Iran can hit a big, fat slow-moving target like a loaded tanker in the Gulf from 1,000 mile away with a number of long-distance drones and missiles.

The troops as well would be sitting ducks.



I would hope we have defenses against long-distance drones and missiles. I haven't seen anything indicating we don't.


We actually don't, their offensive stockpile dwarfs our defensive stockpile, and under the best of circumstances, we don't stop the majority of incoming missiles even if we have enough interceptors.





Hard to shoot when your launchers are all being taken out


The National Enquirer would be a major upgrade over whatever sources you use for info on this war.

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DiabloWags said:

More Fake News from the White House.
They're really trying to "sell" this War.

For example:

I don't recall CNN ever saying that the Administration "did not plan" for Iran closing the Strait. What they said is that the Administration UNDERESTIMATED that Iran would close the Strait.

Big difference.

And it certainly begs the question why the U.S. now has to wait for the USS Tripoli (based out of Japan) to get into the theater if they had assigned a higher probability of Iran closing the Strait. Had they done so, that light carrier, the USS Tripoli would have ALREADY been in position.

Look, we've all been thru the "selling" of a War before with the Bush Administration and Iraq.

The American public isn't stupid to Pete Hegseth and the typical "straw" man arguments that we see from him during press conferences each morning.

This guy actually had a problem with a media news "ticker" saying that "the Iran War intensifies"

He said that the ticker should have said, "Iran getting desperate"

Meanwhile, he said that the sorties and bombing would ramp up even higher to levels never seen before"

Yup.
Sounds like the War is "intensifying"



Anybody with a functioning brain should understand that the timeline for this war began because the U.S. intelligence was able to get an opportunity to kill their terrorist leadership. If they could have done this at a later time and guaranteed their targets vulnerability while positioning more forces, I bet they would have.
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I've noticed that you rely a lot on answers from Ai.
Here's what Ai says ...

As of March 2026, President Donald Trump justified U.S. strikes on Iran by stating his belief that Iran was planning an imminent attack, framing the action as a necessary pre-emptive strike to prevent a larger conflict, according to reports from NPR and YouTube. Trump expressed a "feeling" that Iran would strike first.

Thanks.
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DiabloWags
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And today, our Commander in Chief said that the war will be over .... "when he feels it in my bones".

It's funny to see people who claim to have never voted for Trump, DEFEND him tooth and nail every chance they get.

Strange.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5783165-trump-says-war-with-iran-will-end-when-i-feel-it-in-my-bones/

Cults don't end well. They really don't.
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

I've noticed that you rely a lot on answers from Ai.
Here's what Ai says ...

As of March 2026, President Donald Trump justified U.S. strikes on Iran by stating his belief that Iran was planning an imminent attack, framing the action as a necessary pre-emptive strike to prevent a larger conflict, according to reports from NPR and YouTube. Trump expressed a "feeling" that Iran would strike first.

Thanks.



Yet, still, anybody with a functioning brain should understand that the timeline for this war began because the U.S. intelligence was able to get an opportunity to kill their terrorist leadership. Yes, Iran has been arming for years and will soon arm to the extent where their terrorism can't be contained. Btw, I don't use AI much more than the average poster here.
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