Iran. Oh, the irony...

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sycasey
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Chalk up another win for Mearsheimer.

PAC-10-BEAR
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concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

concordtom said:

Funny to watch the same bad actor argue with a new combatant here.

The point must be learned: it's pointless to get in the mud with a pig.


Agreed.

What's also funny is how 4 stars appear immediately with each and every post,
no matter how false or absurd the post. I feel like I'm in grade school here in this forum.

Grown adults and Cal alums actually have time in their day for this?

Amazing.




Exactly!
I read in some other thread a few weeks ago he/she/it types how they were hoping to climb the ranks of star earners

I completely believe this person is a multi signon individual.

Whatever… have a nice life.
If staring your own posts and getting people banned, not to mention endless argument and conflict with others is what gets people off, more power to them.
BearlySane88
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Lolol when did I say that? And if I did it was facetiously in a response to you probably

You don't like me and I'm okay with that but your continued assumptions that people on here can't possibly agree with me is where you get hung up. I've never gotten anyone banned, that's silly and certainly don't care about stars or how often someone posts.

I do think it's funny that you call me out while you're the only person here openly calling for the death of others.

And thank you, I am having a nice life. I'm very blessed
BearlySane88
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My above post has two stars… the theory is blown up but dang yall are obsessed with me.

Sebasta gets 30+ likes per post
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chazzed
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Sleep well, everybody.

dajo9
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wifeisafurd said:

dajo9 said:

And for the record - my son will be an adult soon and I promise you all our whole family would be living in Europe before I let him get dragged into one of Trump's Epstein Wars.

Right, because Europe is so immune from war.

Then there is the part about your son being in the military. As if anyone in your family would fit the profile.

As for a prolonged war, the Chinese smartly don't fight wars that are not near their borders. Russia has its own problems. What military force do you see preventing Iran from being bombed into the stone age over the next few months? The US' capacity to quickly level areas with conventional weapons is way far beyond what Israel did to Gaza. Your son has nothing to worry about if the Mullah's don't come around quickly. The Iranian military will just take over the county rather than get decimated.

Edit: while the concept of a long military action seems unfounded, there are conceivably some legitimate concerns related to consequences from this US military action. I don't know what the government knew about Iran, but I have major reservations being the world policeman.

Second edit: France, Italy and Great Britain now offering to help bomb Iran. Has the family considered Greenland maybe?



"I don't oppose all wars. What i am opposed to is a dumb war".

We have relatives in Switzerland which has mandatory service. Most men serve in the military but not all. Our relative was choosing not to go the military route though i encouraged him to. I told him I thought serving in the Swiss military could be a good experience for him and I told him I would not say that about the US military because you don't know where you'd wind up killing people.

I wish my son had the opportunity to serve in something like the Swiss military as it would do him good. I think I could say the same about most of the miliaries in Western Europe. Not the US military.

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dajo9
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wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:



cringe worthy. Why would you ever admit that in public? In the "good old days," the CIA would already have the hand-picked successor in place by now.


I hear Ahmed Chalabi is en route
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Cal88
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Anarchistbear said:

Cal88 said:

Anarchistbear said:

tequila4kapp said:

I am not a fan of this answer at all. The correct answer is it will end when we achieve our objectives. Of course, who knows what those objectives really are?


With Trump, I'd say the objective is a four week war.


"Four weeks to flatten the curve"


Two to four weeks depending on how bad the oil spike and stock market is. Fortunately he doesn't care about democracy or freedom in Iran, only how much Miriam Adelson pays, but that doesn't include a bad economy


Cal88
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PAC-10-BEAR said:




She's lying.
DiabloWags
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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:




She's lying.


And she still thinks the 2020 Election was "stolen".
Even suggested as much in a children's book that she wrote.

She is a whackjob.
DiabloWags
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Pete Hegseth just tried to offer a justification for the WHY NOW in a press conference.

It didn't pass the smell test


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Boom.. Boom…Boom!



BearlySane88
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Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:




She's lying.


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/08/donald-trump-iran-assassination-plot-00188498

" Shakeri said during an FBI interview that in September he was directed by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran to surveil and kill Trump"

"FBI Director Chris Wray said that Iran "has been conspiring with criminals and hitmen to target and gun down Americans on U.S. soil and that simply won't be tolerated."
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cal83dls79
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DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:




She's lying.


And she still thinks the 2020 Election was "stolen".
Even suggested as much in a children's book that she wrote.

She is a whackjob.

definitely Luna
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Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:




She's lying.


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/08/donald-trump-iran-assassination-plot-00188498

" Shakeri said during an FBI interview that in September he was directed by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran to surveil and kill Trump"

"FBI Director Chris Wray said that Iran "has been conspiring with criminals and hitmen to target and gun down Americans on U.S. soil and that simply won't be tolerated."


An Afghani who was deported in 2008 and lives in Iran, was going to kill Trump, or head an operation to kill him? And he granted a phone interview with the FBI from Iran??


Quote:

Shakeri is an Afghan national who immigrated to the U.S. as a child, according to the complaint, and then was deported in 2008 after serving 14 years in New York state prisons after a 1994 conviction for robbery. The complaint describes Shakeri as having developed and used a network of criminal associates during his time in prison "to supply the IRGC with operatives to conduct surveillance and assassinations of IRGC targets."

In September and October of this year, according to prosecutors, Shakeri, while located in Tehran, participated in voluntary phone interviews with the FBI. Prosecutors said his reason for agreeing to speak to the FBI was "to attempt to obtain a sentence reduction for another individual" who is imprisoned in the U.S.


BearlySane88
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The FBI under Biden made this up?
DiabloWags
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chazzed said:

Sleep well, everybody.




Hopefully, Tommy will be much better when it comes to "imminent" threats than Party Pete Hegseth is trying to explain them.
Cal88
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Swampy neocon bureaucrats aren't confined to one party.
BearlySane88
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"Stop. This is not Iraq, this is not endless. I was there for both. Our generation knows better, and so does this president! He called the last 20 years of nation-building wars dumb. And he's right."

"This is the opposite. This operation is a clear devastating decisive mission. Destroy the missile threat, destroy the navy, NO NUKES."

Hegseth

Iran is now lobbing attacks at its neighbors, pushing those neighbors closer to the Israeli cause. If Iran had nukes, they'd be using them right now. If Iran was allowed to produce nukes, who knows how indiscriminately they would have used them. If that doesn't show you we needed to stop them from getting nukes, I can't help you get there
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More from the Politico article:

In August, Brooklyn federal prosecutors charged a Pakistani man suspected of plotting on behalf of Iran to kill high-ranking U.S. politicians or officials including perhaps Trump. The man is accused of trying to hire hit men to carry out the plot.

And

Trump has been a target of Iran since January 2020, when, as president, Trump ordered a drone strike killing Qassem Soleimani, then Iran's most powerful military general.
BearlySane88
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FBI that was out to get Trump also manufactured evidence in Trump's favor? I'm interested to hear how you explain that
Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

FBI that was out to get Trump also manufactured evidence in Trump's favor? I'm interested to hear how you explain that


There is a long history of intel agencies fabricating narratives to sell the next war, see the yellowcake/WMD clown show in the runup of the Iraq war.
BearlySane88
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I'm aware but it seems pretty wild that an FBI actively trying to get Trump would flip the script like that. No impossible, just highly improbable
DiabloWags
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

FBI that was out to get Trump also manufactured evidence in Trump's favor? I'm interested to hear how you explain that


There is a long history of intel agencies fabricating narratives to sell the next war, see the yellowcake/WMD clown show in the runup of the Iraq war.


BINGO.
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Data: ACLED (Armed Conflict Location & Event Data). Chart: Axios Visuals ("Other" includes Iran, Iraq, Libya, Nigeria and Venezuela as well as the waters off Mexico, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Colombia, and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.)

"No president in the modern era has ordered more military strikes against as many countries as Donald Trump, Axios' Zachary Basu writes.

He has attacked seven nations, three of which Iran, Nigeria and Venezuela had never been targeted by U.S. military strikes. He authorized more airstrikes in 2025 than President Biden did in four years.

Why it matters: Trump ran as an anti-war candidate. The White House argues he still is that he exhausts diplomacy before acting, and that projecting overwhelming force is itself a path to lasting peace."
Axios






*" Several MAGA influencers resurfaced a warning last June from the late activist Charlie Kirk, who called regime change in Iran "insane" and predicted it would result in "a bloody civil war."
Axios






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DiabloWags
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With American lives at stake, a real LEADER would have already held a press conference by now making the case of this War to the American people.

The President of the United States has an OBLIGATION to the American people to explain the military operation and the "imminent" threat that he is responding to as Commander in Chief.

President Bone Spurs is nowhere to be found.



Cal88
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DiabloWags
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There was no "imminent" threat.

And Pete Hegseth tripped all over himself this morning at a press conference trying to make a case for the attack with a WHY NOW speech that didn't make any sense. A rambling narrative that kids on the debate team at Lowell High School would have crushed in less than 2 minutes.
Cal88
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Yep.

This is apparently was forced the Trump administration's hand:



Pentagon also worried about this war spiraling out of control.

DiabloWags
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I just heard a Congressman on CNN say that it's puzzling why we entered this attack so low on munitions.
Smacks of incompetence.

People are wondering why Iran is firing at other neighbors in the Region.
It's pretty simple . . . they're strategy is a war of attrition.

Meanwhile, instead of addressing the AMERICAN PEOPLE President Bone Spurs held a 9-minute interview with CNN's Jake Tapper this morning.

Key quotes are:

"We're knocking the crap out of them"

"We haven't even hit them hard yet"

"People need to stay inside and be safe"

The Big One is starting soon!"


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