Iran. Oh, the irony...

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In reply to DiabloWags • 8:46a, 5/29/26
Those are just the direct, operational costs. The costs to the global economy from the Hormuz shutdown are in the trillions.
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:49a, 5/29/26
Cal88 said:
Those are just the direct, operational costs. The costs to the global economy from the Hormuz shutdown are in the trillions.


And those costs will continue to pile up long after Trump caves on a deal (JCPOA Lite) to end his little excursion.
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In reply to Muckieeye • 8:53a, 5/29/26
according to the internets jcpoa refers to..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal
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In reply to Muckieeye • 8:53a, 5/29/26
Muckieeye said:
Cal88 said:
Those are just the direct, operational costs. The costs to the global economy from the Hormuz shutdown are in the trillions.


And those costs will continue to pile up long after Trump caves on a deal (JCPOA Lite) to end his little excursion.


Yup.

How Donald Trump Became Jimmy Carter

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In reply to Cal88 • 12:12a, 5/30/26
Cal88 said:
Those are just the direct, operational costs. The costs to the global economy from the Hormuz shutdown are in the trillions.

China and Europe hurting, especially China.

Seems planned.
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3:55a, 5/30/26
Of course it's all planned. I've never seen a more planned strategy. Trump really wanted Iran bigly and he wanted to do it all by himself…..if it worked out. Well, it didn't and won't. Now he's looking for something else to piss on and his followers think this is a plan
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 6:46a, 5/30/26
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Of course it's all planned. I've never seen a more planned strategy. Trump really wanted Iran bigly and he wanted to do it all by himself…..if it worked out. Well, it didn't and won't. Now he's looking for something else to piss on and his followers think this is a plan

He modifed his Atlantic City casino template for use in international relations.


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8:17a, 5/30/26
In this NPR radio piece, expert says under Obama Iran deal they would have had only 300 kg of enriched uranium. Enriched at 3% only, for energy research.

But Trump canceled that deal in 2018 and therefore today have 8500 kg as a result, and it's enriched to a much more advanced degree, useful for perhaps 10 bombs.

TRUMP FAILURE.

Listen for 60 seconds starting at the 3:24 mark:

https://www.npr.org/2026/05/30/nx-s1-5838003/former-ambassador-ivo-daalder-on-his-critique-of-the-u-s-approach-to-military-conflict
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 8:29a, 5/30/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 8:35a, 5/30/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
Those are just the direct, operational costs. The costs to the global economy from the Hormuz shutdown are in the trillions.

China and Europe hurting, especially China.


Europe, India, S Korea, Thailand etc.

China has more oil reserves than the entire world combined. This is also a boon to their EV industry, global demand in exploding.


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Seems planned.


Nothing that Trump does seems planned. The Iran plan that the Israelis sold to Trump was decapitation and regime change in week or two, not this clown show.
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In reply to dajo9 • 9:46a, 5/30/26
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PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 9:55a, 5/30/26
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

Lots of money to be made in stock trades
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In reply to dajo9 • 10:08a, 5/30/26
dajo9 said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

Lots of money to be made in stock trades


Yup.

The "front-running" will continue.
Just ask Eric and Don Jr.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-stock-trades-fuel-accusations-of-corruption-and-profiting-off-presidency

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11:47a, 5/30/26
Iran is getting around oil storage capacity issues by continuing to use shadow fleet tankers, as well as 14 empty tankers that have transported Iranian crude at least once since 2025 which are currently anchored inside the blockade line.

Tanker Trackers said 3 empty tankers slipped thru the blockade line in recent days into the Gulf. Together, they could handle 1.9 million barrels.


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In reply to DiabloWags • 2:40p, 5/30/26
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.
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In reply to Big C • 2:45p, 5/30/26
Big C said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.


In Trump We Trust!

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In reply to Big C • 3:37p, 5/30/26
Big C said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.


Wait. So you're telling me I haven't been gone at all? Or time stood still?
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In reply to dajo9 • 3:42p, 5/30/26
dajo9 said:
Big C said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.


Wait. So you're telling me I haven't been gone at all? Or time stood still?


That's right, he's said the exact same thing before, like, four times! I'm getting a little wary now....
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In reply to Big C • 3:44p, 5/30/26
Big C said:
dajo9 said:
Big C said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.


Wait. So you're telling me I haven't been gone at all? Or time stood still?


That's right, he's said the exact same thing before, like, four times! I'm getting a little wary now....


I'm starting to think Trump isn't on the level
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In reply to Big C • 3:46p, 5/30/26
Big C said:
dajo9 said:
Big C said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.


Wait. So you're telling me I haven't been gone at all? Or time stood still?


That's right, he's said the exact same thing before, like, four times! I'm getting a little wary now....


Gas prices are a nickel higher from a month ago.
The oil companies must be a little wary too ...

But don't worry, Trump said "when oil prices go up, we make a lot of money"



Trump Brags About US Making 'A Lot of Money' When Oil Prices Rise - Newsweek
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:12p, 5/30/26
dajo9 said:
Big C said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.


Wait. So you're telling me I haven't been gone at all? Or time stood still?
the richer got richerer, but I think you knew that first hand. In any event welcome back! Champagne for all!
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 7:24p, 5/30/26
cal83dls79 said:
dajo9 said:
Big C said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.


Wait. So you're telling me I haven't been gone at all? Or time stood still?

the richer got richerer, but I think you knew that first hand. In any event welcome back! Champagne for all!


You can't complain about this if you go out and vote for Collins in November.
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7:26p, 5/30/26
Best summary of the current situation and Trump's Iran dilemma. Trump's real goal is to destroy Iran, since he can't regime change it, but the quandary is that he can't do that without destroying the global economy.

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In reply to Cal88 • 2:30a, 5/31/26
Cal88 said:
cal83dls79 said:
dajo9 said:
Big C said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.


Wait. So you're telling me I haven't been gone at all? Or time stood still?

the richer got richerer, but I think you knew that first hand. In any event welcome back! Champagne for all!


You can't complain about this if you go out and vote for Collins in November.
I may have to hike Mt Kathadin to find my moral compass ….soon. Maybe I'll do Agamenticus, it's closer and easier
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 6:15a, 6/1/26
cal83dls79 said:
Cal88 said:
cal83dls79 said:
dajo9 said:
Big C said:
DiabloWags said:
dajo9 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:



I've been gone for a month. How is Trump's war going?


I hear that we are "close" to a deal.

We should have a deal in two weeks. 2-3 weeks. Iran really wants to make a deal. They are getting desperate. A lot of people are saying this is going to be a phenomenal deal for the US.


Wait. So you're telling me I haven't been gone at all? Or time stood still?

the richer got richerer, but I think you knew that first hand. In any event welcome back! Champagne for all!


You can't complain about this if you go out and vote for Collins in November.

I may have to hike Mt Kathadin to find my moral compass ….soon. Maybe I'll do Agamenticus, it's closer and easier


A pair of good lobster rolls and a beer will be even closer and easier.
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12:49p, 6/1/26


The continuing phase of the Iran War, phone calls.
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12:50p, 6/1/26




Somethings gotta give, can Trump rein in the Israelis in Lebanon?

Joe Kent chimes in:

Translated from Arabic
"For Urgent Attention:
A ceasefire between Iran and the United States constitutes, without any ambiguity, a comprehensive ceasefire across all fronts, including Lebanon."
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1:34p, 6/1/26
Is it a bad sign when the person who started the war is bored with it?

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In reply to chazzed • 1:52p, 6/1/26
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Is it a bad sign when the person who started the war is bored with it?

leaky pools and fight cages is where it's at man!
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2:04p, 6/1/26

Can we count this as yet another war that President Donald J. Trump has ended? I say YES!

Getting the "Hormuz Strait" opened up again will also count! Things haven't been the same since Obama closed it...
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 2:25p, 6/1/26
cal83dls79 said:
chazzed said:
Is it a bad sign when the person who started the war is bored with it?

leaky pools and fight cages is where it's at man!

Napkins, ballrooms and images on money.
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4:49p, 6/1/26


So much for Trump doing whatever Israel and Bibi want.
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In reply to sonofabear51 • 5:26p, 6/1/26
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Rogue CIA agent Frank Terpil did some consulting work for Idi Amin. His two best stories:
1. Frank was at a dinner party where Idi shot a guy at the table in the head during dinner; and
2. Idi Amin's favorite torture was to put a starving rat on the victim's stomach as he was laying on a table, put a Pyrex bowl over the rat, and heat the bowl with a blow torch.

The Last King of Scotland spent the last 25 years of his life living in comfortable exile in Saudi Arabia and died of natural causes at age 78.
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