Iran. Oh, the irony...

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Anarchistbear said:



Shocked, I tell you, shocked

the framing for what Trump said is pretty disingenuous imo, he was talking about the military planners and he's right, what kind of idiot attacks the people that aren't attacking them.
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MinotStateBeav said:

Anarchistbear said:



Shocked, I tell you, shocked

the framing for what Trump said is pretty disingenuous imo, he was talking about the military planners and he's right, what kind of idiot attacks the people that aren't attacking them.


The answer from a Trump administration insider:



Quote:

After much reflection, I have decided to resign from my position as Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, effective today.

I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.

It has been an honor serving under
@POTUS and @DNIGabbard and leading the professionals at NCTC.

May God bless America.


42M views, this tweet has made the rounds..
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MinotStateBeav said:

Anarchistbear said:



Shocked, I tell you, shocked

the framing for what Trump said is pretty disingenuous imo, he was talking about the military planners and he's right, what kind of idiot attacks the people that aren't attacking them.


They are attacking countries with US bases or suppprt US war aims - why wouldn't they?
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The Chief sounds off on the Coalition of the Non Willing
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" Joe Kent, a top counterterrorism official, resigned today claiming that Trump was duped by Israel into starting a war with Iran.

Ok, Joe. Where's the evidence? The consequences of a claim like this are too dire not to be backed with facts. If you have them, I'll stand with you…"
Glenn Beck

Here is your proof, Glenn, you crybaby piece of shyte:




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"They are gonna try and destroy this man."

Saagar Enjeti says Republicans will come after Joe Kent for resigning and saying Israel got the U.S. into war with Iran for nothing.

"This is the National Director of Counterterrorism, highest security clearance in the entire United States government."

"I guarantee you they will try to indict him."

"They're gonna say he breached his security clearance by sharing information, that he was never a real patriot, that he's a snake, that he's an anti-Semite."

"The full stop of the pro-war machine and the US government are going to try and destroy this man."

"Just watch and wait."

"This should be wall-to-wall news."

"We never even really had high-profile resignations like this under Iraq."

"And I mean, I think the fact that you have a high-level security official with the top security clearance saying this is Israel's war, that they manipulated the intelligence… you have to ask seriously about all of the lies that have been told by this White House."

"And I think second, what did he know to have to resign at this point?"

"He knew no end in sight."

"And that's why he decided to do it now."

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Cal88 said:

Lots of speculation about Netanyahu being dead or severely injured from an Iranian strike, as he has missed the last 8 wartime cabinet meetings, and his last two video releases were AI.




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bearister said:




This is very hateful of you to post about an entire group of people.

Yes I'm aware it refers to MAGA, that's why I posted it. People on here keep saying MAGA is fracturing. This says otherwise
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BearlySane88 said:

bearister said:

"CNN is FORCED to ADMIT on LIVE tv that nearly 90% of voters SUPPORT President Trump's military campaign against Iran."

Gee, that isn't too misleading. That refers to MAGA. Trump wouldn't lose the support of those quarterwits even if he had a guy murdered in prison.


This is very hateful of you to post about an entire group of people.

Yes I'm aware it refers to MAGA, that's why I posted it. People on here keep saying MAGA is fracturing. This says otherwise


You're conflating MAGAs with ex-MAGAs. The Massie/MTG ex-MAGA faction is gone. Even if it's a minority within the starting MAGA base, when you factor in the immense majority of independents who Trump has turned off, leftover MADA is not much of a crowd going into the midterm elections.
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

bearister said:

"CNN is FORCED to ADMIT on LIVE tv that nearly 90% of voters SUPPORT President Trump's military campaign against Iran."

Gee, that isn't too misleading. That refers to MAGA. Trump wouldn't lose the support of those quarterwits even if he had a guy murdered in prison.


This is very hateful of you to post about an entire group of people.

Yes I'm aware it refers to MAGA, that's why I posted it. People on here keep saying MAGA is fracturing. This says otherwise


You're conflating MAGAs with ex-MAGAs. The Massie/MTG ex-MAGA faction is gone. Even if it's a minority within the starting MAGA base, when you factor in the immense majority of independents who Trump has turned off, leftover MADA is not much of a crowd going into the midterm elections.


98% TDS
2% Troll

Independents were never MAGA, they were independents who voted with MAGA. lol we'll see, polling looks great right now, as I posted in another thread
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Notice that our country's Head of DNI has been as quiet as a mouse.

The war skeptic and isolationist Miss Gabbard who has been highly critical of a war with IRAN in the past, met with Joe Kent and JD Vance before Kent turned in his resignation.

Gabbard put out a statement today about the War which was extremely neutral in tone. It does not sound to me like she endorses it.

She will testify tomorrow in front of the Senate and on Thursday in front of the House.

I dont expect her to speak her mind.
But my Popcorn is ready.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/03/joe-kent-tulsi-gabbard-iran/686433/

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Notice that our country's Head of DNI has been as quiet as a mouse.

The war skeptic and isolationist Miss Gabbard who has been highly critical of a war with IRAN in the past, met with Joe Kent and JD Vance before Kent turned in his resignation.

Gabbard put out a statement today about the War which was extremely neutral in tone. It does not sound to me like she endorses it.

She will testify tomorrow in front of the Senate and on Thursday in front of the House.

I dont expect her to speak her mind.
But my Popcorn is ready.



Rumors are that she had been told to fire Kent and didn't. My guess is she's next to resign before being fired
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Another hateful post. Sad that you have been afflicted by TDS so badly.
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

bearister said:

"CNN is FORCED to ADMIT on LIVE tv that nearly 90% of voters SUPPORT President Trump's military campaign against Iran."

Gee, that isn't too misleading. That refers to MAGA. Trump wouldn't lose the support of those quarterwits even if he had a guy murdered in prison.


This is very hateful of you to post about an entire group of people.

Yes I'm aware it refers to MAGA, that's why I posted it. People on here keep saying MAGA is fracturing. This says otherwise


You're conflating MAGAs with ex-MAGAs. The Massie/MTG ex-MAGA faction is gone. Even if it's a minority within the starting MAGA base, when you factor in the immense majority of independents who Trump has turned off, leftover MADA is not much of a crowd going into the midterm elections.


98% TDS
2% Troll

Independents were never MAGA, they were independents who voted with MAGA. lol we'll see, polling looks great right now, as I posted in another thread


Are you really trying to say that Massie and MTG were not MAGA?

90% bad faith
10% compulsively annoying
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

bearister said:

"CNN is FORCED to ADMIT on LIVE tv that nearly 90% of voters SUPPORT President Trump's military campaign against Iran."

Gee, that isn't too misleading. That refers to MAGA. Trump wouldn't lose the support of those quarterwits even if he had a guy murdered in prison.


This is very hateful of you to post about an entire group of people.

Yes I'm aware it refers to MAGA, that's why I posted it. People on here keep saying MAGA is fracturing. This says otherwise


You're conflating MAGAs with ex-MAGAs. The Massie/MTG ex-MAGA faction is gone. Even if it's a minority within the starting MAGA base, when you factor in the immense majority of independents who Trump has turned off, leftover MADA is not much of a crowd going into the midterm elections.


98% TDS
2% Troll

Independents were never MAGA, they were independents who voted with MAGA. lol we'll see, polling looks great right now, as I posted in another thread


Are you really trying to say that Massie and MTG were not MAGA?

90% bad faith
10% compulsively annoying



100% poor reading comprehension
Did I make any comment regarding them at all?
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

bearister said:

"CNN is FORCED to ADMIT on LIVE tv that nearly 90% of voters SUPPORT President Trump's military campaign against Iran."

Gee, that isn't too misleading. That refers to MAGA. Trump wouldn't lose the support of those quarterwits even if he had a guy murdered in prison.


This is very hateful of you to post about an entire group of people.

Yes I'm aware it refers to MAGA, that's why I posted it. People on here keep saying MAGA is fracturing. This says otherwise


You're conflating MAGAs with ex-MAGAs. The Massie/MTG ex-MAGA faction is gone. Even if it's a minority within the starting MAGA base, when you factor in the immense majority of independents who Trump has turned off, leftover MADA is not much of a crowd going into the midterm elections.


98% TDS
2% Troll

Independents were never MAGA, they were independents who voted with MAGA. lol we'll see, polling looks great right now, as I posted in another thread


Are you really trying to say that Massie and MTG were not MAGA?

90% bad faith
10% compulsively annoying



100% poor reading comprehension
Did I make any comment regarding them at all?




Right, because Leftover MAGA were the only MAGA there ever was, the others were never really a part of the Jonestown Peoples Temple parish.



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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

bearister said:

"CNN is FORCED to ADMIT on LIVE tv that nearly 90% of voters SUPPORT President Trump's military campaign against Iran."

Gee, that isn't too misleading. That refers to MAGA. Trump wouldn't lose the support of those quarterwits even if he had a guy murdered in prison.


This is very hateful of you to post about an entire group of people.

Yes I'm aware it refers to MAGA, that's why I posted it. People on here keep saying MAGA is fracturing. This says otherwise


You're conflating MAGAs with ex-MAGAs. The Massie/MTG ex-MAGA faction is gone. Even if it's a minority within the starting MAGA base, when you factor in the immense majority of independents who Trump has turned off, leftover MADA is not much of a crowd going into the midterm elections.


98% TDS
2% Troll

Independents were never MAGA, they were independents who voted with MAGA. lol we'll see, polling looks great right now, as I posted in another thread


Are you really trying to say that Massie and MTG were not MAGA?

90% bad faith
10% compulsively annoying



100% poor reading comprehension
Did I make any comment regarding them at all?




Right, because Leftover MAGA were the only MAGA there ever was, the others were never really a part of the Jonestown Peoples Temple parish.






Those ponchos are appropriation. Bad form
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"You now have not 1 but 2 external participants of the US-Iran talks (Oman's foreign minister and the UK's National Security Advisor) who confirm that the US and Israel attacked despite Iran effectively meeting US conditions for a deal - ensuring it could never build a nuclear weapon, permanently.

As per The Guardian article (https://theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/17/uk-security-adviser-attended-us-iran-talks-and-judged-deal-was-within-reach), Jonathan Powell "believed the path remained open to a negotiated solution to the long-running issue of how Iran could reassure the US that it was not seeking a nuclear weapon," and "UK officials [...] were impressed that Iran was prepared for the deal to be permanent."

Concretely, this means the war wasn't a failure of diplomacy but a deliberate destruction of it.

And it also means that the US and Israel have irresponsibly plunged the entire world in an unprecedented energy crisis, affecting the livelihoods of billions of people worldwide, when it was completely avoidable.

It's beyond me how you can look at this and not conclude that the real threat all along wasn't Iran but the US-Israeli axis - they're the only parties at the table who wanted war and are making every person on the planet pay the price for it.

Extraordinarily, even the UK National Security Advisor is now basically saying this."
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Cal88 said:





"You now have not 1 but 2 external participants of the US-Iran talks (Oman's foreign minister and the UK's National Security Advisor) who confirm that the US and Israel attacked despite Iran effectively meeting US conditions for a deal - ensuring it could never build a nuclear weapon, permanently.

As per The Guardian article (https://theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/17/uk-security-adviser-attended-us-iran-talks-and-judged-deal-was-within-reach), Jonathan Powell "believed the path remained open to a negotiated solution to the long-running issue of how Iran could reassure the US that it was not seeking a nuclear weapon," and "UK officials [...] were impressed that Iran was prepared for the deal to be permanent."

Concretely, this means the war wasn't a failure of diplomacy but a deliberate destruction of it.

And it also means that the US and Israel have irresponsibly plunged the entire world in an unprecedented energy crisis, affecting the livelihoods of billions of people worldwide, when it was completely avoidable.

It's beyond me how you can look at this and not conclude that the real threat all along wasn't Iran but the US-Israeli axis - they're the only parties at the table who wanted war and are making every person on the planet pay the price for it.

Extraordinarily, even the UK National Security Advisor is now basically saying this."


There are videos of Iranian officials saying they were enriching to nuclear levels and that they wanted the bomb.
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:





"You now have not 1 but 2 external participants of the US-Iran talks (Oman's foreign minister and the UK's National Security Advisor) who confirm that the US and Israel attacked despite Iran effectively meeting US conditions for a deal - ensuring it could never build a nuclear weapon, permanently.

As per The Guardian article (https://theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/17/uk-security-adviser-attended-us-iran-talks-and-judged-deal-was-within-reach), Jonathan Powell "believed the path remained open to a negotiated solution to the long-running issue of how Iran could reassure the US that it was not seeking a nuclear weapon," and "UK officials [...] were impressed that Iran was prepared for the deal to be permanent."

Concretely, this means the war wasn't a failure of diplomacy but a deliberate destruction of it.

And it also means that the US and Israel have irresponsibly plunged the entire world in an unprecedented energy crisis, affecting the livelihoods of billions of people worldwide, when it was completely avoidable.

It's beyond me how you can look at this and not conclude that the real threat all along wasn't Iran but the US-Israeli axis - they're the only parties at the table who wanted war and are making every person on the planet pay the price for it.

Extraordinarily, even the UK National Security Advisor is now basically saying this."


There are videos of Iranian officials saying they were enriching to nuclear levels and that they wanted the bomb.


We already know that Iran has 400kg of 60% grade enriched uranium, they were willing to part with their stockpile in exchange for peace and the lifting of sanctions, but Israel wanted Iran's destruction, as confirmed by several reliable sources from the US and UK - that is what my post above was all about.
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:





"You now have not 1 but 2 external participants of the US-Iran talks (Oman's foreign minister and the UK's National Security Advisor) who confirm that the US and Israel attacked despite Iran effectively meeting US conditions for a deal - ensuring it could never build a nuclear weapon, permanently.

As per The Guardian article (https://theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/17/uk-security-adviser-attended-us-iran-talks-and-judged-deal-was-within-reach), Jonathan Powell "believed the path remained open to a negotiated solution to the long-running issue of how Iran could reassure the US that it was not seeking a nuclear weapon," and "UK officials [...] were impressed that Iran was prepared for the deal to be permanent."

Concretely, this means the war wasn't a failure of diplomacy but a deliberate destruction of it.

And it also means that the US and Israel have irresponsibly plunged the entire world in an unprecedented energy crisis, affecting the livelihoods of billions of people worldwide, when it was completely avoidable.

It's beyond me how you can look at this and not conclude that the real threat all along wasn't Iran but the US-Israeli axis - they're the only parties at the table who wanted war and are making every person on the planet pay the price for it.

Extraordinarily, even the UK National Security Advisor is now basically saying this."


There are videos of Iranian officials saying they were enriching to nuclear levels and that they wanted the bomb.


We already know that Iran has 400kg of 60% grade enriched uranium, they were willing to part with their stockpile in exchange for peace and the lifting of sanctions, but Israel wanted Iran's destruction - that is what my post was all about.


If they had been willing, they would have. They were not willing. Iranian officials and IRGC want the destruction of Israel and they wouldn't have given up their only possible means of attaining said destruction
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:





"You now have not 1 but 2 external participants of the US-Iran talks (Oman's foreign minister and the UK's National Security Advisor) who confirm that the US and Israel attacked despite Iran effectively meeting US conditions for a deal - ensuring it could never build a nuclear weapon, permanently.

As per The Guardian article (https://theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/17/uk-security-adviser-attended-us-iran-talks-and-judged-deal-was-within-reach), Jonathan Powell "believed the path remained open to a negotiated solution to the long-running issue of how Iran could reassure the US that it was not seeking a nuclear weapon," and "UK officials [...] were impressed that Iran was prepared for the deal to be permanent."

Concretely, this means the war wasn't a failure of diplomacy but a deliberate destruction of it.

And it also means that the US and Israel have irresponsibly plunged the entire world in an unprecedented energy crisis, affecting the livelihoods of billions of people worldwide, when it was completely avoidable.

It's beyond me how you can look at this and not conclude that the real threat all along wasn't Iran but the US-Israeli axis - they're the only parties at the table who wanted war and are making every person on the planet pay the price for it.

Extraordinarily, even the UK National Security Advisor is now basically saying this."


There are videos of Iranian officials saying they were enriching to nuclear levels and that they wanted the bomb.


We already know that Iran has 400kg of 60% grade enriched uranium, they were willing to part with their stockpile in exchange for peace and the lifting of sanctions, but Israel wanted Iran's destruction - that is what my post was all about.


If they had been willing, they would have. They were not willing. Iranian officials and IRGC want the destruction of Israel and they wouldn't have given up their only possible means of attaining said destruction


Several parties in the negotiations stated they were willing to permanently eliminate their nuclear program, read the Guardian article above, instead of going with what Ben Shapiro or Gunther Eagleman are feeding you.
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:





"You now have not 1 but 2 external participants of the US-Iran talks (Oman's foreign minister and the UK's National Security Advisor) who confirm that the US and Israel attacked despite Iran effectively meeting US conditions for a deal - ensuring it could never build a nuclear weapon, permanently.

As per The Guardian article (https://theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/17/uk-security-adviser-attended-us-iran-talks-and-judged-deal-was-within-reach), Jonathan Powell "believed the path remained open to a negotiated solution to the long-running issue of how Iran could reassure the US that it was not seeking a nuclear weapon," and "UK officials [...] were impressed that Iran was prepared for the deal to be permanent."

Concretely, this means the war wasn't a failure of diplomacy but a deliberate destruction of it.

And it also means that the US and Israel have irresponsibly plunged the entire world in an unprecedented energy crisis, affecting the livelihoods of billions of people worldwide, when it was completely avoidable.

It's beyond me how you can look at this and not conclude that the real threat all along wasn't Iran but the US-Israeli axis - they're the only parties at the table who wanted war and are making every person on the planet pay the price for it.

Extraordinarily, even the UK National Security Advisor is now basically saying this."


There are videos of Iranian officials saying they were enriching to nuclear levels and that they wanted the bomb.


We already know that Iran has 400kg of 60% grade enriched uranium, they were willing to part with their stockpile in exchange for peace and the lifting of sanctions, but Israel wanted Iran's destruction - that is what my post was all about.


If they had been willing, they would have. They were not willing. Iranian officials and IRGC want the destruction of Israel and they wouldn't have given up their only possible means of attaining said destruction


Several parties in the negotiations stated they were willing to permanently eliminate their nuclear program, read the Guardian article above, instead of going with what Ben Shapiro or Gunther Eagleman are feeding you.


Yes I read it already. If they were going to eliminate their program, they would have. They didn't because again they want total destruction of the Israeli state, as you seem to want also.
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:


There are videos of Iranian officials saying they were enriching to nuclear levels and that they wanted the bomb.


We already know that Iran has 400kg of 60% grade enriched uranium, they were willing to part with their stockpile in exchange for peace and the lifting of sanctions, but Israel wanted Iran's destruction - that is what my post was all about.


If they had been willing, they would have. They were not willing. Iranian officials and IRGC want the destruction of Israel and they wouldn't have given up their only possible means of attaining said destruction


Several parties in the negotiations stated they were willing to permanently eliminate their nuclear program, read the Guardian article above, instead of going with what Ben Shapiro or Gunther Eagleman are feeding you.


Yes I read it already. If they were going to eliminate their program, they would have. They didn't because again they want total destruction of the Israeli state, as you seem to want also.


Read again -
We already know that Iran has 400kg of 60% grade enriched uranium, they were willing to part with their stockpile in exchange for peace and the lifting of sanctions, as confirmed by several reliable source who have participated in the negotiations, but Israel wanted Iran's destruction - that is what my post was all about.

And that is why you are a waste of time.

Back to the main topic:




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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:


There are videos of Iranian officials saying they were enriching to nuclear levels and that they wanted the bomb.


We already know that Iran has 400kg of 60% grade enriched uranium, they were willing to part with their stockpile in exchange for peace and the lifting of sanctions, but Israel wanted Iran's destruction - that is what my post was all about.


If they had been willing, they would have. They were not willing. Iranian officials and IRGC want the destruction of Israel and they wouldn't have given up their only possible means of attaining said destruction


Several parties in the negotiations stated they were willing to permanently eliminate their nuclear program, read the Guardian article above, instead of going with what Ben Shapiro or Gunther Eagleman are feeding you.


Yes I read it already. If they were going to eliminate their program, they would have. They didn't because again they want total destruction of the Israeli state, as you seem to want also.


Read again -
We already know that Iran has 400kg of 60% grade enriched uranium, they were willing to part with their stockpile in exchange for peace and the lifting of sanctions, as confirmed by several reliable source who have participated in the negotiations, but Israel wanted Iran's destruction - that is what my post was all about.

And that is why you are a waste of time.

Back to the main topic:







Again, no they weren't going to give up their one path to Israeli destruction. They had several opportunities to do so over the past decade.

You can disagree with me without being insulting. It's pretty wild that you feel the need to do that when someone disagrees with you.
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And this is the risk of being a total FOOL.

Venezuela was too easy for him.
So now his EGO is caught by staying in IRAN a lot longer.

His advisors are wasting their time.
It's all about his EGO now.

NATO snubbing him probably gave him extra vigor to keep going just to prove a point.

Such a childish, frail, man.
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I feel safer. How about all of you?

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DiabloWags said:

And this is the risk of being a total FOOL.

Venezuela was too easy for him.
So now his EGO is caught by staying in IRAN a lot longer.

His advisors are wasting their time.
It's all about his EGO now.

NATO snubbing him probably gave him extra vigor to keep going just to prove a point.

Such a childish, frail, man.



He will have to TACO when SHTF in the markets, sometime later this year.
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A lot of people have been saying that Trump is taking credit for Venezuela's win in the World Baseball Classic and that he is demanding that he get the trophy.



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