dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I agree with your comment that the action against Iran is different circumstances than led to the Irag war; hence, my qualified language about any type of reimbursement. There is a lot of discussion about this being a war at Israel's request, but if you look at who benefits if Iran goes away as a player in the region, the primary beneficiary after Israel is Saudi Arabia, and one wonders if the Saudis were not also encouraging this action big time, and thus may have committed to financially support this effort. Just speculation on my part, I have no specific knowledge.

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Russia has to be a big beneficiary just from higher gas prices

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BearlySane88 said:

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If you had been living under a brutal regime, I don't think sports facilities being destroyed is a real worry of yours

Nobody is bombing their stadiums just to ruin Iran. If you start using a building or facility for military purposes, it's going to get hit. Not sure why that needs to be explained.

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BearlySane88 said:

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Yeah this is your worst take on me yet. I am prejudice against no group of people, just idiots of all origin.

I was once engaged to a Persian. I was raised in a Persian preschool and community. I spoke Farsi before English. Stop making assumptions about people when you have no idea what their background or life experiences are.

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wifeisafurd said:

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You hit on a big issue in legal circles and jurisprudence classes when you said the Constitution was dead, which is does the Constitution evolve with the times? There are two schools of thought, both represented on the current SCOTUS.

There is originalism which fixes meaning to the constitution's text's public understanding at ratification, promoting stability. Gorsuch is a great example. Whether a layman agrees with his approach may depend on the issue. For example, the folks that generally left liked his concurrence when he voted against tariffs, even if the other justices in the majority didn't.

Living constitutionalism argues the document evolves with societal values and practicality, allowing for adaptation. Kagan probably is the best example of that. When it comes to the military action the courts have argued that the executive branch can act with greater speed, secrecy, and unity, which is necessary for responding to modern threats and warfare which require much more immediate action than threats in the 1700s. The other theme from living constitutional types is that Presidents have consistently engaged in military operations without formal congressional declarations (e.g., Korea, Libya, Iraq, Somalia, Serbia), creating a precedent that courts should not overturn.

I also might point out that this was Congressional action to not limit the President that just occurred, so it hard to argue that Congressional will is being thwarted.

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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US estimates gone from days to week to four weeks to four to five weeks to eight weeks in 100 hours https://t.co/0Lwq2Zs39x

— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) March 4, 2026

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We need more information here, really, so take the tweet below with a grain of salt.

Every day the estimated length of the war doubles. https://t.co/HKHHLddjli

— RAMZPAUL (@ramzpaul) March 5, 2026

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Uh oh!

BREAKING: U.S. Central Command is now saying internally that this war against Iran is likely to last through September, per POLITICO

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) March 5, 2026

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concordtom said:

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sycasey said:

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chazzed said:

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sycasey said:

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US estimates gone from days to week to four weeks to four to five weeks to eight weeks in 100 hours https://t.co/0Lwq2Zs39x

— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) March 4, 2026

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We need more information here, really, so take the tweet below with a grain of salt.

Every day the estimated length of the war doubles. https://t.co/HKHHLddjli

— RAMZPAUL (@ramzpaul) March 5, 2026

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Uh oh!

BREAKING: U.S. Central Command is now saying internally that this war against Iran is likely to last through September, per POLITICO

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) March 5, 2026

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Maybe it's a midterms thang.

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Big C said:

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concordtom said:

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sycasey said:

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chazzed said:

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sycasey said:

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US estimates gone from days to week to four weeks to four to five weeks to eight weeks in 100 hours https://t.co/0Lwq2Zs39x

— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) March 4, 2026

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We need more information here, really, so take the tweet below with a grain of salt.

Every day the estimated length of the war doubles. https://t.co/HKHHLddjli

— RAMZPAUL (@ramzpaul) March 5, 2026

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Uh oh!

BREAKING: U.S. Central Command is now saying internally that this war against Iran is likely to last through September, per POLITICO

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) March 5, 2026

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Maybe it's a midterms thang.

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I'm thinking the only way this "war" doesn't last past the midterm elections is if there's some sort of miracle and the Iranian people rise up and create a new, America-friendly government. Something that's pretty much never happened in a situation like this.

Because if it ends in the next six months and the result is sub-optimal, Trump is screwed in November.

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Cal88 said:

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The Saudis and Emiratis considering pulling out of the Trump megainvestment deals because their countries are being destroyed by Trump's war of choice.

Look for Japan, S Korea and other countries hurt by the ongoing oil shock to do the same.

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, and Qatar are discussing pulling back from U.S. and other investments as the toll from this regional war with Iran mounts. https://t.co/M0OjA27Bns pic.twitter.com/yVpKrRgSLm

— Ali (@MerruX) March 5, 2026

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Anarchistbear said:

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Place blame where it belongs, AI Claude killed the girls

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You probably thought you were being funny, but you could be right.

The NYT ordered new satellite imagery from the commercial provider Planet Labs. It showed the area was hit by six rockets fired by the US, one which hit the school, and five which hit the adjacent military installations.

Commercial satellites are not equipped with sensors that determine where the rockets were aimed. Contrast that with the use of AI and satellites in US military defense systems that can determine the flight when someone shoots a rocket or missile and then sends out something to intercept the incoming projectile.

The article quotes Wes J. Bryant, a national security analyst who served in the U.S. Air Force and was a senior adviser on civilian harm at the Pentagon, He reviewed the commercial satellite images and concluded that all of the buildings, including the school, had been hit with "picture perfect" target strikes. That probably doesn't mean what you think it means, and the NYT wants to leave it ambiguous. It means that it looks like the rockets hit where you would aim if you were shooting at the buildings, in other words were direct hits on the buildings. It doesn't mean that the rocket that hit the school was aimed at the school building. There is no way to know that for the technology employed by the NYT, and the inference that it is, is the type of journalism one can expect in these days of narrative driven journalism.

That raises two issues assuming you believe that the US Navy doesn't intend to blow-up schools. One is an intelligence failure, which like it or not happens all the time, and in fact Bryant suggests happened. AI has images of stuff, picks out the target, and then when directed shoots rockets at its selected targets. It doesn't mean AI has all the most up to date images in the world or that it correctly picks the correct images out of the billions of images on line. But militaries (and just not the US) routinely have to rely on bad or imprecise intelligence when bombing thousands of targets a day.

The other weird thing my Space X friends tell me can happen is that modern missiles don't always go where they were originally aimed. While there are things such as defective missile systems (just look at Iran which has a hard time controlling where its missiles go) that is much more unlikely with US rockets and missiles. Modern US guided military rockets and missiles can adjust their trajectory after launch to hit targets, even if the target moves or the initial aim was off. They use internal guidance systems, such as GPS, radar, laser designation, or infrared sensors, to actuate fins or vector thrust, allowing them to redirect in flight. The systems don't operate at 100% effectiveness, and they can lock on to different targets that cross their path (which also can be the cause of friendly fire accidents). That would explain the direct hit, assuming that the initial target wasn't bad in the first place (see the prior paragrah).

Said it before, but the arrogance to think the US or any other military can run a perfectly sanitary war and not hit civilians is dangerous. Sometimes the military does know civilians are in the target area and shoots intentionally because they military target is just to high value. Hard to conclude the subject installation in question was such a target without further information. Nevertheless, the law professors should save their idiotic conclusions about violating international law for the ivory tower, because the real world doesn't function that way. Then there is collateral damage that occurs because a military target is adjacent to or in civilian rich area, and sheet happens. Using in AI is just replacing AI error for human error. You don't want civilian casualties, don't have a war.

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Key Whistleblowers and Revelations

• Daniel Hale (USAF): A former Air Force intelligence analyst, Hale leaked classified documents to The Intercept in 2014, revealing that U.S. drone strikes in Afghanistan and other regions often resulted in high civilian casualties. The "Drone Papers" exposed that during a five-month period (20122013), nearly 90% of people killed in these airstrikes were not the intended targets. Hale was sentenced to 45 months in prison in 2021.

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AIPAC sure got their money’s worth from these 4 Dems today pic.twitter.com/NFRi7sXCVa

— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) March 6, 2026